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Old 11-17-2012, 01:44 PM   #1
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negative. "black" Friday is not an official holiday.
We arent talking about the day after Thanksgiving.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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negative. "black" Friday is not an official holiday.
Working on Thanksgiving is a holiday.....whether you call it Black Friday or not.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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Most major retailers pay "holiday pay" which is a guaranteed 8 hours on top of your normal pay.
I don't consider "holiday pay" on the same level as overtime pay. I a worker qualifies for holiday pay, they will receive that pay whether they work that day or not. You can't consider this as extra pay for that day because it is pay they would receive anyway. For the hours that the employee is actually working they are getting paid their normal wage.

IMO the only businesses that should be open on major holidays are the ones that are necessary for quality of life, i.e. hospitals, fire departments, police departments, etc. . . Nobody "needs" to shop at Wal-Mart, Target, or any other major retailer on Thanksgiving day. If all major retailers would come up with some sort of rule that they all stay closed on major holidays, their businesses wouldn't be affected negatively either. People would just have to wait an extra day to buy all the cheap products manufactured in China.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:01 PM   #4
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I don't consider "holiday pay" on the same level as overtime pay. I a worker qualifies for holiday pay, they will receive that pay whether they work that day or not. You can't consider this as extra pay for that day because it is pay they would receive anyway. For the hours that the employee is actually working they are getting paid their normal wage.

IMO the only businesses that should be open on major holidays are the ones that are necessary for quality of life, i.e. hospitals, fire departments, police departments, etc. . . Nobody "needs" to shop at Wal-Mart, Target, or any other major retailer on Thanksgiving day. If all major retailers would come up with some sort of rule that they all stay closed on major holidays, their businesses wouldn't be affected negatively either. People would just have to wait an extra day to buy all the cheap products manufactured in China.
I think wal mart should be widespread boycotted, anyways. Damn near everything there used to be made in the USA and that's what made it great, now they are just exploiting this country and making it borderline impossible to maintain small business.

Asa far as your holiday pay argument, I don't really agree with you. The economy is what it is and companies are doing what they can this year to maintain their workforces while staying profitable. Otherwise those people might not have those jobs to worry about next year. If a company is willing to pay you twice for working and is being reasonable with the timing of said request, and go to work.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:06 PM   #5
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #6
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:52 PM   #7
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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If family is so important, maybe they should make it a point to see them more than twice a year?
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:00 PM   #9
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Hell we have to work the Wednesday night before thanksgiving and I have been hung out on a long run until 11 am on Thanksgiving day with no sleep and I have been working there 18 years...

Shit happens
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:02 PM   #10
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People better support the little guy (I do) because when all of the little guys are gone, wally world will set the prices where they want.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:19 PM   #11
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People better support the little guy (I do) because when all of the little guys are gone, wally world will set the prices where they want.
Exactly.

1) most of their products are bought from China
2) the quality of their products is crap and that's why they are cheap
3) most of their full time employees have to be on government assistance
4) the cost of their products close the doors of the places that well products that are still made in the USA

I could probably go on and list 20 more, but I don't want to derail the original thread with shit that's been beaten to death in other threads..
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:27 PM   #12
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Exactly.

1) most of their products are bought from China
2) the quality of their products is crap and that's why they are cheap
3) most of their full time employees have to be on government assistance
4) the cost of their products close the doors of the places that well products that are still made in the USA

I could probably go on and list 20 more, but I don't want to derail the original thread with shit that's been beaten to death in other threads..
I despise Wally World, I hate even going in there, nothing but a bunch of chinese shit..... Sometimes I go in and showroom their knives in sporting goods (gerber makes pretty good knives) then I go buy it online.

You see something online at walmart for say 99 bucks , you go to the walmart they tell you its 109.00 , you have to go back home and buy it online and go back to the same damn store to pick it up...

Dumb shit..
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #13
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I think I've got more of a problem with this Current American culture of shopping madness which has brought all this about. The stores are just reacting to shopper demand.

Why can't customers and families just wait until Friday at 8 or 9 am to start shopping?
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I think I've got more of a problem with this Current American culture of shopping madness which has brought all this about. The stores are just reacting to shopper demand.

Why can't customers and families just wait until Friday at 8 or 9 am to start shopping?
Brick and Mortar are doing everything they can do to compete with cybersales.

90% of the stuff I buy comes from the internet because I don't like to pay sales tax
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