The most damning evidence against Geno Smith yet.

[Direckshun]

Comes from the teams themselves, does it not?

Here's the top ten draft slots:

1. Kansas City Chiefs -- need a QB
2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- need a QB
3. Oakland Raiders -- need a QB
4. Philadelphia Eagles -- need a QB
5. Detroit Lions
6. Cleveland Browns -- need a QB
7. Arizona Cardinals -- need a QB
8. Buffalo Bills -- need a QB
9. New York Jets -- need a QB
10. Tennessee Titans

Of those 8 teams, you have a legit shot to draft Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, or Ryan Nassib.

What do these teams do?

Chiefs -- Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
Raiders -- Matt Flynn
Eagles -- re-up Michael Vick
Browns -- Jason Campbell
Cardinals -- Carson Palmer
Bills -- Kevin Kolb, Tavaris Jackson
Jets -- David Garrard

Only the Jags have left their hole at QB untouched, but seem to be favoring giving Gabbert one more shot. The Browns are a bit more debatable, as it's clear that Campbell is not a 16-game starter.

[Mike in SW-MO]

I find it interesting the Chiefs have Geno in house on the first day players can return. Same day Alex gets his playbook, Geno is throwing for management.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

I still have doubts about Vick...I see the Chiefs trading with Eagles

The Eagles apparently love Geno.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 29s

I did hear he wasn't great on the white board at the combine.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 29s

I did hear he wasn't great on the white board at the combine.

'Bombed that shit like it was 5th period Algebra' is what I heard.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Comes from the teams themselves, does it not?

Here's the top ten draft slots:

1. Kansas City Chiefs -- need a QB
2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- need a QB
3. Oakland Raiders -- need a QB
4. Philadelphia Eagles -- need a QB
5. Detroit Lions
6. Cleveland Browns -- need a QB
7. Arizona Cardinals -- need a QB
8. Buffalo Bills -- need a QB
9. New York Jets -- need a QB
10. Tennessee Titans

Of those 8 teams, you have a legit shot to draft Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, or Ryan Nassib.

What do these teams do?

Chiefs -- Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
Raiders -- Matt Flynn
Eagles -- re-up Michael Vick
Browns -- Jason Campbell
Cardinals -- Carson Palmer
Bills -- Kevin Kolb, Tavaris Jackson
Jets -- David Garrard

Only the Jags have left their hole at QB untouched, but seem to be favoring giving Gabbert one more shot. The Browns are a bit more debatable, as it's clear that Campbell is not a 16-game starter.

No they aren't. They are giving coach speak saying there is no starter right now and he will have to fight for the job.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

The Eagles apparently love Geno.

Chip Kelly just got done saying he doesn't need a franchise QB for his offense to be good.

No chance they take a QB in the first.

[Dayze]

love the media.

"I heard"
"My sources"
"according to someone in the know"


lol. whatever. they just make shit up because no one can call them out on it.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Good Lord, the Geno habit seems to be tougher to kick than heroin. ChiefsPlanet needs a mass intervention.

[Beeker]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

QB Geno Smith, #12

Positives: Has a strong arm and can rifle the ball with good velocity into tight windows. Can throw with accuracy on the move and layer the deep ball. Good overall accuracy, ball placement and touch, especially on the fade route. Throws a very catchable ball — spins it tightly. Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed. Outstanding straight-line speed — clocked the best 40-yard time (4.56 seconds) and broad jump (10-foot-4) of any quarterback at the Combine. Very durable, experienced, three-year starter — overcame an average offensive line, has never missed any time to injury and will play through pain.

Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition — forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics — does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college — cannot handle hard coaching.
Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.
NFL projection: Top-50 pick.


http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...outing-reports

This is awesome. I actually hope the chefs DO draft him now!!!

[Easy 6]

Dorsey/Reid arent taking a top quarterback this year, not sure why people keep clinging to that hope... even IF the total money invested at that position is less than a Flacco-type deal.

In no way are they going to threaten Axl Smiff right off the bat with a #1 pick, it just doesnt sound plausible to me, with them knowing the situation he just came out of and wanting him to feel like the champ as they get things started.

I'd give it no more than a 10% probability, i could be wrong but its unlikely... they simply arent going to threaten this guy like that, atleast not right away.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by scott free

Dorsey/Reid arent taking a top quarterback this year, not sure why people keep clinging to that hope... even IF the total money invested at that position is less than a Flacco-type deal.

In no way are they going to threaten Axl Smiff right off the bat with a #1 pick, it just doesnt sound plausible to me, with them knowing the situation he just came out of and wanting him to feel like the champ as they get things started.

I'd give it no more than a 10% probability, i could be wrong but its unlikely... they simply arent going to threaten this guy like that, atleast not right away.

Its a buisness. They could care less about Alexs feelings. If they feel like Geno is good enough to be #1 they will draft him.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 29s

I did hear he wasn't great on the white board at the combine.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

'Bombed that shit like it was 5th period Algebra' is what I heard.

I saw the Mooch white board interview with him. He wasn't very good. ESPN is promoing Chuckie's "QB grill" starting with Geno Smith this week. I didn't catch the time or date.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Comes from the teams themselves, does it not?

Here's the top ten draft slots:

1. Kansas City Chiefs -- need a QB
2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- need a QB
3. Oakland Raiders -- need a QB
4. Philadelphia Eagles -- need a QB
5. Detroit Lions
6. Cleveland Browns -- need a QB
7. Arizona Cardinals -- need a QB
8. Buffalo Bills -- need a QB
9. New York Jets -- need a QB
10. Tennessee Titans

Of those 8 teams, you have a legit shot to draft Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, or Ryan Nassib.

What do these teams do?

Chiefs -- Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
Raiders -- Matt Flynn
Eagles -- re-up Michael Vick
Browns -- Jason Campbell
Cardinals -- Carson Palmer
Bills -- Kevin Kolb, Tavaris Jackson
Jets -- David Garrard

Only the Jags have left their hole at QB untouched, but seem to be favoring giving Gabbert one more shot. The Browns are a bit more debatable, as it's clear that Campbell is not a 16-game starter.

Why is Campbell not a 16 game starter?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Chip Kelly just got done saying he doesn't need a franchise QB for his offense to be good.

No chance they take a QB in the first.

Yeah, and we are "FASCINATED" with Geno. Predraft poker.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by scott free

Dorsey/Reid arent taking a top quarterback this year, not sure why people keep clinging to that hope... even IF the total money invested at that position is less than a Flacco-type deal.

In no way are they going to threaten Axl Smiff right off the bat with a #1 pick, it just doesnt sound plausible to me, with them knowing the situation he just came out of and wanting him to feel like the champ as they get things started.

I'd give it no more than a 10% probability, i could be wrong but its unlikely... they simply arent going to threaten this guy like that, atleast not right away.

They don't owe Alex Smith anything. They traded for his services, he's under contract for this year and next, and if Alex Smith fails in the first four or five games, you put Geno in and don't have to pay the 49ers a 2nd next year, just the third because playing time wasn't met. I'll admit that there are as many pros taking Geno as there are Cons, but honestly don't talk like Alex Smith is owed anything. It seems to me that Chiefs fans are jaded because of the many years of failure we have at the QB position, namely the last four for the last QB we traded a second round pick. It depends on if you see the glass half full or half empty. I'm choosing to trust the regime until they give me reason not to. It almost seems like they're bringing Geno in for not only a smoke screen effect, but also to allow him to wow them with their players in their facility with their coaches picking his brain. I think at the moment Dorsey and Reid don't know what they're doing with the first overall pick, but I get the feeling that they'd be happy with any outcome; trade being highest but any player they'd have to stay in and take whether it be Joeckel or Geno, they get their picks worth.