Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

[GoChargers]

The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.

Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.

In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.

Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...russell-wilson

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Russell Wilson is like a good beer that you get at the liquor store.
Alex Smith is like the "lite" shittier version of said beer you get at the liquor store, but it's "decent" and gets you through.

Rodgers/Manning/Brady/Brees are like said beer you get on tap from a nice bar.

That's the difference.

Rodgers/Manning/Brady/Brees are like Lombardi's Pizza in NY.

Russell Wilson is Waldo Pizza or Minsky's.

Alex Smith is DiGiorno.

[Hammock Parties]

Cassel is Totinos.

[Hootie]

0.2 total QBR in the playoffs? Are you cherry picking 3 quarters of a game he won with a 35 yard touchdown pass in overtime after rallying his team down 12 with 4 minutes left in regulation?

...because that would be a real rational take, I think

[Hootie]

Brees is not in the Manning/Rodgers/Brady tier

[Joe Seahawk]

I don't have a problem with people calling Russel a game manager, after all all qb' are right? But Russel deserves a huge amount of credit to our success in the last 3 years.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

Why haven't you won a Super Bowl with Rivers? How many years?

We've never had the perfect combination of arguably the best coach in football, a generational defense, and an elite running back. Even our best teams with Rivers only had one of the three. Hell, if we had Pete Carroll instead of Marty, we'd have rung in 2006.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

I don't have a problem with people calling Russel a game manager, after all all qb' are right? But Russel deserves a huge amount of credit to our success in the last 3 years.

He's the best QB of all-time /hootie

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

I don't have a problem with people calling Russel a game manager, after all all qb' are right? But Russel deserves a huge amount of credit to our success in the last 3 years.

RunKC, a Chiefs fan, knows more about Russell Wilson than you, man. I realize you're a season ticket holder who goes to all the games and gets to watch him play every down of every season ... but RunKC just knows more about him than you do. He reads the box scores.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He's the best QB of all-time /hootie

now, I've certainly never said that

however, that is far more accurate than saying he's the 8th best player on his team

you idiot

[Joe Seahawk]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You win Hootie.

Russell Wilson is the greatest QB there ever was. Brady, Manning, Elway and Joe Montana himself cannot hold his 0.2 total QBR jockstrap in the playoffs.

Let's give him a HOF ballot tomorrow.

^ how to respond when you've been owned.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Brees is not in the Manning/Rodgers/Brady tier

You're splitting hairs. Drink one more beer and collapse into bed before it's 3 AM and you've wasted 200 posts repeating the same arguments about elite QBs.

[RunKC]

Let's review this…

RB-Lynch is elite. Arguably the best in the NFL.
LT-pro bowl level elite talent
LG-pro bowl level elite talent
C-pro bowl level elite talent
RG-above average but not great
RT-decent rookie
WR's are not great by any means but do make catches.
TE's-close to avg but still below

defense-one of the best in NFL history

coaching-elite

Remember when Alex Smith and Matt Cassel won double-digit games with that kind of surrounding cast?

[Joe Seahawk]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

We've never had the perfect combination of arguably the best coach in football, a generational defense, and an elite running back. Even our best teams with Rivers only had one of the three. Hell, if we had Pete Carroll instead of Marty, we'd have rung in 2006.

Oh well, maybe someday. Rivers will never hoist a Lombardi because he lacks leadership. (Great guy though)

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

^ how to respond when you've been owned.

I'm used to it.

I apply logic used on this board about certain QB's to other QB's and all I get back is "hootie gonna hootie!"

It is what it is.

People that don't think Russell is elite don't watch Russell play. It's that simple.

The hawks are awesome, man. Enjoy it. Hopefully the Chiefs will stumble upon something someday.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

I don't have a problem with people calling Russel a game manager, after all all qb' are right? But Russel deserves a huge amount of credit to our success in the last 3 years.

Game managers are great to have. I don't understand the criticism of having them. I'm sick of people calling Alex Smith a game manager just because he's conservative.