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Old 12-03-2012, 08:09 PM  
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Belcher was out with another woman the night before the murder
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According to a law enforcement official close to the investigation, Jovan Belcher was out "partying" the night before he shot Kasandra Perkins. He had been with a woman in the Power and Light District, an area of bars in downtown Kansas City, according to the official who is familiar with statements made by the woman to police.
Belcher and the woman had become separated at some point and he went to her apartment in a complex in Kansas City, but she wasn't there, the official said. According to two of the woman's neighbors, Belcher was intoxicated and they let him stay in their apartment so he could get some sleep.
Belcher asked them to wake him by 6:30 a.m. so he could attend a team meeting later that morning, the official said. "I'll get fined if I don't make it," Belcher told them.
The women woke Belcher and he went to Perkins' house about 6:30 a.m. or 7 a.m. She had come home earlier after a concert and being out in the Power and Light District also.
The couple then argued before Belcher killed Perkins and later killed himself.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:05 AM   #76
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Did he sleep on a friend's couch or in his car? Way to many conflicting reports.
Does it matter?
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:06 AM   #77
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #78
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Does it matter?
Kind of. If reports are true, police found him sleeping in his car and decided he was ok to drive home. If they had detained him, the whole chain of events changes.

Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting that the police are at fault. If he wasn't legally intoxicated, they had absolutely no grounds on which to detain him.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:55 AM   #79
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Kind of. If reports are true, police found him sleeping in his car and decided he was ok to drive home. If they had detained him, the whole chain of events changes.

Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting that the police are at fault. If he wasn't legally intoxicated, they had absolutely no grounds on which to detain him.
but then the other girl's neighbors let him sleep on their couch because he was too drunk to drive home?


that had to have happened AFTER the police incident. they woke him at 6:30 to go to a meeting by some reports.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:06 AM   #80
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not me.

i think he was a jealous guy, no matter what HE was doing, he "got separated from the other girl on purpose to run home and see if the GF was there yet. they got into a fight and then he left. he was probably so drunk he pulled over a passed out on the way to the other girls house.

fell asleep on the neighbors couch then went home fought with and killed GF.


I agree. There is a pattern with jealously and control types to be that way in large part because they can't trust themselves and imagine others are just as untrustworthy.

No idea if that was the case, but I have found this out the hard way before.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:30 AM   #81
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The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was nice that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:31 AM   #82
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The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was night that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.
yeah, but a Bentley on parked on Armour at 2am?

...that would be suspicious to me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #83
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yeah, but a Bentley on parked on Armour at 2am?

...that would be suspicious to me.
Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:34 AM   #84
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Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.


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Old 12-04-2012, 11:34 AM   #85
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Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.
Maybe he had lights or music on.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:35 AM   #86
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Maybe he had lights or music on.
Don't know the neighborhood, maybe somebody called them?
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Maybe he had lights or music on.
Possibly. But that situation isn't completely clear.

What I do believe is that the story from a friend of Perkins about how they were up at 1AM arguing, is completely false. Or at least it wouldn't be possible if the story about him and the other girl are true.
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Possibly. But that situation isn't completely clear.

What I do believe is that the story from a friend of Perkins about how they were up at 1AM arguing, is completely false. Or at least it wouldn't be possible if the story about him and the other girl are true.
Honestly, I'm pretty confused about the timeline.

However, I haven't really focused too heavily on it yet.
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Possibly. But that situation isn't completely clear.

What I do believe is that the story from a friend of Perkins about how they were up at 1AM arguing, is completely false. Or at least it wouldn't be possible if the story about him and the other girl are true.
again it would be VERY possible. i explained how a couple posts ago
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