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Old 04-10-2017, 03:12 PM  
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Just kicked some poor guys ass for refusing to give up his seat!
You never see this on the United Airlines commercials....

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Old 04-13-2017, 02:10 PM   #841
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There are a couple of things that would be interesting to hear the answers to that I haven't seen to this point.

1) From what I read he initially refused because he had to see patients the next day.....since the point was raised that the reinstatement of his license meant he could only see outpatients one day a week, did he have patients scheduled for the next day? If not, what overriding reason did he have to need to get back to Louisville?

2) Additionally, what I read is that he got off then ran back on. Don't know about anyone else but if someone got taken off the plane and then ran back on, wouldn't that make you as a passenger a little concerned?

I hope UAL gets hit hard, maybe it will make the other airlines who seem to view passengers as burdens, a bit more friendly and open-pocketed about overbooking and compensation.

It's not like they don't make plenty of money on the "extras" these days.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:14 PM   #842
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This will be damaging to him in the courts, now they can use that they removed him because he ran back on the plane AFTER he initially agreed to get off the plane without incident. Then after back on, started the whole you have to remove me forcefully mantra...

As the Capt I would of booted his ass right there and claimed that we were fearful for our crew and aircraft. I would of labeled him a potential terrorist and held up the flight until the FAA was notified and FAA air marshals were on scene. I would of used that avenue to label him permanently and let the FAA put him on the "Do Not Fly" list... I would of seen how he liked that.
No it won't because there is no way United will let it get that far. They don't want the extra bad PR a trial would bring. The lawyers will come up with a number everyone can live with and it will go away.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:15 PM   #843
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No it won't because there is no way United will let it get that far. They don't want the extra bad PR a trial would bring. The lawyers will come up with a number everyone can live with and it will go away.


Youre most likely right....

I am curious to see the rest of the videos out there...
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:15 PM   #844
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So you would say a beating is determined on the methods used and not the outcome of the physical altercation? Hmmmm I don't know DG. I still think you are splitting hairs
No, to me and most other normal people (you know, non-Bronco fans), a beating means an intent to harm.

I don't think there was any intent to bloody this guy's nose and mouth. Yeah, they used excessive force which caused the dude to smack his face on the armrest, but in no way is this a beating.

I'm sure you'll disagree with me and it's really not worth putting anymore effort into, so I'll leave it at that.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:18 PM   #845
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No it won't because there is no way United will let it get that far. They don't want the extra bad PR a trial would bring. The lawyers will come up with a number everyone can live with and it will go away.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:22 PM   #846
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This will be damaging to him in the courts,
Depends...he can argue, and I think his attorney will successfully argue that the physical altercation caused him to not know what he was doing.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:23 PM   #847
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Depends...he can argue, and I think his attorney will successfully argue that the physical altercation caused him to not know what he was doing.
He reboarded the plane before they issued a WWE smack down...
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:28 PM   #848
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No, to me and most other normal people (you know, non-Bronco fans), a beating means an intent to harm.


I don't think there was any intent to bloody this guy's nose and mouth. Yeah, they used excessive force which caused the dude to smack his face on the armrest, but in no way is this a beating.

I'm sure you'll disagree with me and it's really not worth putting anymore effort into, so I'll leave it at that.
Broken teeth and a broken nose is harm, please review UA's global citizenship and CSR initiatives and realize their behavior is in opposition to that policy.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:33 PM   #849
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UA CEO calls the men who removed the passenger "law enforcement."
United CEO Oscar Munoz says the airline won't allow law enforcement officers to haul seated paying passengers off its flights again.

"We are not going to put a law enforcement official to take them off," Munoz told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Wednesday. "To remove a booked, paid, seated passenger -- we can't do that."
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:35 PM   #850
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Just saw an article on Yahoo that now United is refunding every passenger on the plane. Think they wish they'd have just offered a higher amount to get actual volunteers?
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:45 PM   #851
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:47 PM   #852
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I used to think that First Class passengers were immune to being bumped. Apparently I was wrong:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/united-ai...073030438.html
he was only bumped (actually downgraded) because the plane physically had less seats in first class than were booked. That's pretty rare, they normally don't overbook first class.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:52 PM   #853
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He reboarded the plane before they issued a WWE smack down...
no, he was drug off, then ran back on. At that point he was clearly dazed and concussed and acting goofy.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:58 PM   #854
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He reboarded the plane before they issued a WWE smack down...
Not according to his attorney, which is where I got my information from, but he may be wrong.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:59 PM   #855
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I can intend to drive to the store if I hit someone on the way my intent doesn't matter. They might not have intended to inflict that kind of damage, but they did inflict that damage.
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