The Friendly Skies...

[gblowfish]

Just kicked some poor guys ass for refusing to give up his seat!
You never see this on the United Airlines commercials....

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ompting-outcry

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Help me not. I made a plain statement. You agree it's accurate. Someone else applies an incorrect definition to a fairly straightforward word to assert that I'm full of shit, and I turn out the bad guy still? Not for being wrong, let alone full of shit, but for being a smartypants?

Maybe I should just give up.

I agree it's accurate from a certain frame of reference. That within the airline industry it's not an anomaly. However the person you accused of being confused by the word anomaly was also accurate that within business practices in general the way the airlines operate is an anomaly.

So I disagree that the definition the other poster used was incorrect. It was correct from the viewpoint of general business practices, just not within the airline industry. I never said you were full of shit, just that your response to came off as condescending and frankly it did IMO.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Bwana

A few years back I got the full business as well in Baltimore. This guy was grabbing my ass, the whole works. When I got my wallet I went back, opened my wallet, pulled out a $5 and stuck it out. The guy just stood there like a post and finally said "what's this about?" I told him "normally for that kind of rub down it costs me at least $200 from a hooker named Peaches, I figured I should at least tip you." The guy got all kinds of pissed off. I just smiled, turned around and walked to my gate.

The guy that did me might well have been a ****ing cyborg. The only trace of humanity he exhibited was bad breath.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Two weeks back after leaving for years in a tantrum, and now you speak for everybody.

Dude, I don't have a problem with you, and I dislike the people who do have problem with you more than most posters here. But perhaps for those who do, it's not a mystery.

Dude, he's been back for almost 3 months.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Dude, he's been back for almost 3 months.

Fact is he went full Shia Labeouf, for years.

Like the guy, but facts are fact.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Frazod

The guy that did me might well have been a ****ing cyborg. The only trace of humanity he exhibited was bad breath.

Yeah like I said, most of them look like they just got fired from a burger joint the day before, not exactly the cream of society. If they didn't get the TSA job, they would likely be out digging through dumpsters hustling up aluminum cans.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

I agree it's accurate from a certain frame of reference. That within the airline industry it's not an anomaly. However the person you accused of being confused by the word anomaly was also accurate that within business practices in general the way the airlines operate is an anomaly.

So I disagree that the definition the other poster used was incorrect. It was correct from the viewpoint of general business practices, just not within the airline industry. I never said you were full of shit, just that your response to came off as condescending and frankly it did IMO.

Business practices are driven in large part by the nature of the business engaged in.

It's fairly irrelevant that Mom's pie shop will bake you an apple pie if you insist on it, even if they're out, rather than throw you off the premises.

[Rausch]

I ****ing hate flying.

By the time I'm buckled in on a flight I'm more ****ed up than the average person being face-raped at a sideways dentist's office...

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Fact is he went full Shia Labeouf, for years.

Like the guy, but facts are fact.

No, I got banned by a pair of power mad psychopaths. While I was gone, I never came back as a mult, rarely even lurked, and was content to be gone forever until I was told that the ****s had been run out of management. I was asked to return, and I did.

You are well aware of this, Mr. Facts are Fact.

Nice to know you like me so much though.

Group Hug!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Fact is he went full Shia Labeouf, for years.

Like the guy, but facts are fact.

I'd fit that description.

I haven't been banned or booted...

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Business practices are driven in large part by the nature of the business engaged in.

It's fairly irrelevant that Mom's pie shop will bake you an apple pie if you insist on it, even if they're out, rather than throw you off the premises.

Yes but it's still allowable to compare business practices across different industries. Here was what you said that I responded to.

An 'acceptable industry practice' can be a number things [a ripoff, a travesty, a shame]. What it cannot be, by definition, is an anomaly.

You used this to imply the poster didn't know what anomaly meant. When in fact his usage of the word was 100% correct when comparing to other industries. Here is the post you were responding to.

The initial anomaly is that it is an acceptable industry practice to kick paying customers out of their seats. Period. How long do you think you'd stay in business treating clients like this?

Notice how he mentions how you would fare if you treated customers this way? This should have been your hint that he meant the airlines being able to treat people like they do is an anomaly in the overall business world. Because I think we all know you aren't a pilot, so obviously by asking you how your customers would like to be treated like this he's comparing to another industry.

Where you come off as condescending is when you decide that if he isn't viewing things from your narrow viewpoint he doesn't know the meaning of the word.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah like I said, most of them look like they just got fired from a burger joint the day before, not exactly the cream of society. If they didn't get the TSA job, they would likely be out digging through dumpsters hustling up aluminum cans.

Ironically, at O'Hare on the flight out of Chicago, they were fine. Hell, I remember one of them was actually pleasant. I went right through with no issues whatsoever.

For that flight I was wearing a Chiefs hat, though. Maybe they felt sorry for me.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

Yes but it's still allowable to compare business practices across different industries. Here was what you said that I responded to.



You used this to imply the poster didn't know what anomaly meant. When in fact his usage of the word was 100% correct when comparing to other industries. Here is the post you were responding to.



Notice how he mentions how you would fare if you treated customers this way? This should have been your hint that he meant the airlines being able to treat people like they do is an anomaly in the overall business world. Because I think we all know you aren't a pilot, so obviously by asking you how your customers would like to be treated like this he's comparing to another industry.

Where you come off as condescending is when you decide that if he isn't viewing things from your narrow viewpoint he doesn't know the meaning of the word.

But my point was the thing that was ANOMALOUS about this specific incident in this specific situation that resulted in a physical confrontation.

The thing that was different in this situation, compared to MILLIONS of other bumps and deplanings was this individual refused to move until such point that the security personnel responded with physical violence.

Maybe if Fraz had said 'the entire airline industry is full of anomalies compared to normal civilized interaction' you'd have a more solid point.

Think of it like this, only if it helps. I only wish to help.

Suppose there is an accident on a roller coaster, and it turns out that for the first time in the history of the park there had been no maintenance on the coaster for a year.

One could find fair consensus to say 'it was anomalous for the park not to maintain their coasters.'

Would you defend Fraz and label me condescending if he interjected 'no, what's anomalous is customers putting up with standing in line to be thrown into the air for a few moments of thrills.'

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah like I said, most of them look like they just got fired from a burger joint the day before, not exactly the cream of society. If they didn't get the TSA job, they would likely be out digging through dumpsters hustling up aluminum cans.

Pre-9/11, they were the worthless sacks of shit that made 8 bucks an hour. Post 9/11, same worthless sacks of shit with new uniforms and a raise.

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

But my point was the thing that was ANOMALOUS about this specific incident in this specific situation that resulted in a physical confrontation.

The thing that was different in this situation, compared to MILLIONS of other bumps and deplanings was this individual refused to move until such point that the security personnel responded with physical violence.

That's great, but I don't really care. The only thing I'm addressing here is that his statement was a 100% valid use of the word anomaly. And your trying to make him look stupid because he didn't use it in the exact same frame of reference as you is a dick move.

Maybe if Fraz had said 'the entire airline industry is full of anomalies compared to normal civilized interaction' you'd have a more solid point.

So he has to phrase it in the exact way you want. You're unbelievable. Anyway I'm pretty much done here, you seemed confused as to why people were saying you came across as condescending so I was simply pointing it out to you. If you want to ignore it carry on.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

That's great, but I don't really care. The only thing I'm addressing here is that his statement was a 100% valid use of the word anomaly. And your trying to make him look stupid because he didn't use it in the exact same frame of reference as you is a dick move.


So he has to phrase it in the exact way you want. You're unbelievable. Anyway I'm pretty much done here, you seemed confused as to why people were saying you came across as condescending so I was simply pointing it out to you. If you want to ignore it carry on.

Now you're arguing just to argue. I didn't try to make anyone look stupid. I was following up on all the people accusing me of hypertechnical language full of obscure terms.

However strenuously you continue to assert your position, it is a stretch. What I meant by anomaly was clear and what Fraz asserted as the 'true' anomaly was a tortured use of language.