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Old 02-27-2019, 03:31 PM  
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No Tag for Landon Collins?
Dave Gettleman casts doubt on tagging Landon Collins
Posted by Josh Alper on February 27, 2019, 3:24 PM EST
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Safety Landon Collins‘ future with the Giants was a topic of conversation last week amid dueling reports about whether he cleaned out his locker.

Collins cleared up the locker issue by saying he took stuff he needed and left some other things behind, but the issue of his return remained up in the air and it was the subject of one of the questions posed to General Manager Dave Gettleman at his Scouting Combine press conference in Wednesday. Gettleman’s answer suggested that the team may not be going that route.

The Giants are projected to have in the neighborhood of $27 million in cap space, but Gettleman said that’s not all available money because “you’ve got to go into the season with $8-10 million in space” in order to deal with any injury losses.

“So you’ve got to say to yourself: ‘$10 million goes here,'” Gettleman said, via SNY.TV. “So now that conversation is different, isn’t it? ‘Man, they’ve only got $17 million left.'”

Gettleman, who was the Panthers G.M. when the team rescinded Josh Norman‘s tag, also pointed to the unhappiness that often comes with a tag.

“So let’s go to the conversation of eliminating distractions,” Gettleman said, via SNY.tv. “You tag a guy. He’s mad. And that’s all you guys are going to write about. For six months it’s what it’s going to be. So I have to say to myself, ‘Is it worth it?'”

A report last week indicated that Collins would sit out the offseason if tagged before the March 5 deadline for teams to avail themselves of that option.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:00 PM   #46
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Qbs are completing nearly 70% of their passes when they target Collins.

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Old 02-28-2019, 12:02 PM   #47
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Qbs are completing nearly 70% of their passes when they target Collins.

Meh
Spags has the perfect fit for him. He’ll be fine here IMHO.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:03 PM   #48
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I'm curious why the Giants would let him walk for nothing? Is he just not a fit there?
They will end up getting a 3rd round compensatory pick. And since they are keeping Eli, they don't really have the cap space if they want to be active in free agency.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:09 PM   #49
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:36 PM   #50
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Trade Houston. Cut Berry.

Bring in Collins, get some new blood going with the draft on defense. This new staff will get the most out of these players IMO.

Landon is ideal for a FA at 25 years old. He can be a long term answer at SS.
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I’m just not prepared to make him the highest paid safety in the league to be a box safety
Isn't that what we basically did with Berry? People loved that.
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Isn't that what we basically did with Berry? People loved that.
How’d that work out?

And we want to do that again?
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How’d that work out?

And we want to do that again?
Oh come on...

Berry had cancer previously
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How’d that work out?

And we want to do that again?
Poorly. But not because of the position or the player. It was simple health that led to that falling apart.

That's a risk you run with ANY player you sign to a long-term deal.

If this team has a healthy Eric Berry playing at the level he was playing when he signed his deal, do you think we win a championship last year? I do.

There's risk, sure. But the risk isn't for the reasons you're suggesting. If Collins plays at the level he's played to over the last several years after getting a long-term deal here, especially the level he played at under Spags, then we'll never regret that contract.

And if he doesn't play to that level, it will be because of injuries. Do you have any reason to believe he's more prone to injury than ANYONE we'd give a LTC to? Or are you opposed to paying top of the market for any defensive player?

I can understand either of those arguments if you're willing to make them. I disagree with them, but I'll acknowledge their validity. If you have some reasoning beyond that, I certainly can't come up with it.
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Poorly. But not because of the position or the player. It was simple health that led to that falling apart.

That's a risk you run with ANY player you sign to a long-term deal.

If this team has a healthy Eric Berry playing at the level he was playing when he signed his deal, do you think we win a championship last year? I do.

There's risk, sure. But the risk isn't for the reasons you're suggesting. If Collins plays at the level he's played to over the last several years after getting a long-term deal here, especially the level he played at under Spags, then we'll never regret that contract.

And if he doesn't play to that level, it will be because of injuries. Do you have any reason to believe he's more prone to injury than ANYONE we'd give a LTC to? Or are you opposed to paying top of the market for any defensive player?

I can understand either of those arguments if you're willing to make them. I disagree with them, but I'll acknowledge their validity. If you have some reasoning beyond that, I certainly can't come up with it.
I’m not excited about paying that much for a safety that’s just good in coverage but is elite in the box and around the line of scrimmage
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The good news is his age and such that you could be ssentislly adding s blue chip core player in his prime

But it’s gonna be expensive

Plus it’s what Sauto wants and that makes me angry
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