Patriots will trade Logan Mankins to Buccaneers

[thabear04]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have acquired a guard, no not Richie Incognito, but rather a cornerstone of the New England Patriots.

FOX Sports has learned that the two teams have agreed to the terms of a trade that would send Patriots captain and six-time pro bowler Logan Mankins to the Bucs in exchange for a player and an undisclosed pick. A Patriots source said the deal is agreed upon, but they are still waiting to finalize the deal.

Mankins, entering his 10th season in the league, was a first-round pick by the Patriots in 2005 out of Fresno State. He made $5.7 million last season.
On the same day the Bucs brought in Incognito in for a visit, they got this deal done.

Pats got TE Tim Wright and an undisclosed draft pick.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I said nothing about Patriots fans panicking, nor did I suggest any such thing.


Keep spinning, though.

You're the one backtracking, but whatever.

Suffice to say the Patriots are carrying dead money as a result of the trade, but the net effect is salary cap savings.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You're the one backtracking, but whatever.

Suffice to say the Patriots are carrying dead money as a result of the trade, but the net effect is salary cap savings.

I haven't backtracked the slightest bit.


****ing homers everywhere think they don't need to learn to read.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Trading him this year results in

$4+ million cap hit this year
$4 million cap hit next year

or an $8+ million cap hit, depending on whether or not they split it.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's still impactful. Just ask the posters around here who are panicked about the Chiefs' cap situation for next year.

So here are your two quotes. First, the cap hit. Second, the comment that it's "impactful", followed by noting that Chiefs fans are "panicked" about their salary cap situation for next year.

And you don't think that suggests Patriots fans should be similarly concerned about their "cap situation for next year" based on the "impactful" "$4 million cap hits"?

You don't think that suggests that the Patriots took a NET cap hit, rather than getting cap savings as a result of the trade?

You don't think that is misleading/confusing?

My reading skills aren't what need work -- it's your pathetic communication skills.

The reality is that the Patriots FREED up $7 million for next year which can be thrown at a Revis or whatever. Sure, they need to pay some guy to replace Mankins (and/or take that 51st spot on the roster) which offsets a whopping $500K of the salary cap space freed, but that's still a crapload of sheckles that they can throw at someone else. It certainly isn't NEGATIVELY IMPACTFUL, as you suggest, which should result in worrying about the Pats cap situation.

You should stop while you're far, far, behind, before you get lost forever.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I haven't backtracked the slightest bit.


****ing homers everywhere think they don't need to learn to read.

Will this guy shut up already? Literally the most annoying mother ****er on Chiefs Planet. You make Clay's Alex Smith rants about as intriguing as a titty sucking convention.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

So here are your two quotes. First, the cap hit. Second, the comment that it's "impactful", followed by noting that Chiefs fans are "panicked" about their salary cap situation for next year.

And you don't think that suggests Patriots fans should be similarly concerned about their "cap situation for next year" based on the "impactful" "$4 million cap hits"?

You don't think that suggests that the Patriots took a NET cap hit, rather than getting cap savings as a result of the trade?

You don't think that is misleading/confusing?

My reading skills aren't what need work -- it's your pathetic communication skills.

The reality is that the Patriots FREED up $7 million for next year which can be thrown at a Revis or whatever. Sure, they need to pay some guy to replace Mankins (and/or take that 51st spot on the roster) which offsets a whopping $500K of the salary cap space freed, but that's still a crapload of sheckles that they can throw at someone else. It certainly isn't NEGATIVELY IMPACTFUL, as you suggest, which should result in worrying about the Pats cap situation.

You should stop while you're far, far, behind, before you get lost forever.

Holy shit.

Whether you like it or not, trading Mankins accelerates his bonuses, and that puts that money on the cap. That's 8+ million. I showed how that dead money would hit the cap, depending on how the team broke it down. I made no comment about net, at all, and reinforced that point in responding to one of your later posts, so how the **** do you get to claiming I suggested anything about net?

As for the Chiefs, feel free to read some threads around here. You'll find that the theme is "Not enough room to sign Houston, Berry and Smith". Now, their situation is not the Patriots situation, but it serves as an example of how cap space can make an impact, which is how it was used.

Again, you ****ing homers don't bother reading.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Holy shit.

Whether you like it or not, trading Mankins accelerates his bonuses, and that puts that money on the cap. That's 8+ million. I showed how that dead money would hit the cap, depending on how the team broke it down. I made no comment about net, at all, and reinforced that point in responding to one of your later posts, so how the **** do you get to claiming I suggested anything about net?

As for the Chiefs, feel free to read some threads around here. You'll find that the theme is "Not enough room to sign Houston, Berry and Smith". Now, their situation is not the Patriots situation, but it serves as an example of how cap space can make an impact, which is how it was used.

Again, you ****ing homers don't bother reading.

Annnd there's my answer. He absolutely will not shut the **** up.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Holy shit.

Whether you like it or not, trading Mankins accelerates his bonuses, and that puts that money on the cap. That's 8+ million. I showed how that dead money would hit the cap, depending on how the team broke it down. I made no comment about net, at all, and reinforced that point in responding to one of your later posts, so how the **** do you get to claiming I suggested anything about net?

As for the Chiefs, feel free to read some threads around here. You'll find that the theme is "Not enough room to sign Houston, Berry and Smith". Now, their situation is not the Patriots situation, but it serves as an example of how cap space can make an impact, which is how it was used.

Again, you ****ing homers don't bother reading.

You're either pathetically confused or pathetically stupid.

[Amnorix]

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Originally Posted by Patriots

Bill Belichick on Logan Mankins: "Logan Mankins is everything we would ever want in a football player. It is hard to imagine a better player at his position, a tougher competitor or a person to represent our program. He is one of the all-time great Patriots and the best guard I ever coached. Logan brought a quiet but unmistakable presence and leadership that will be impossible to duplicate. Unfortunately, this is the time of year when difficult decisions have to be made - and this is one of the most difficult we will ever make - but like every other decision it was made for what we feel is in the best interests of the team

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

What am I missing here, why is Mankins so expendable?

Patriots always do this, they get rid of star players right before they decline and get better value in a relatively high draft pick. TH\hat's how they remain good for so long, they do almost anything that'll help them stock up on picks.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You're either pathetically confused or pathetically stupid.

You've got nothing. No surprise. The bonus money accelerates. That's the way the NFL works, spin boy.

[BucEyedPea]

Good for Bucs.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Trading him this year results in

$4+ million cap hit this year
$4 million cap hit next year

or an $8+ million cap hit, depending on whether or not they split it.

No option/ability to split it.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You've got nothing. No surprise. The bonus money accelerates. That's the way the NFL works, spin boy.

Yeah, I know. And yet the Patriots have ~$6 million more in cap room today than they did before the trade yesterday. Which is the entire point -- you ignored that fact like it didn't even exist.