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Old 03-18-2012, 12:08 AM  
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So with the addition of Quinn, Boss, Routt, Winston and Hillis - where do we stand salary cap wise and is there enough to go after another Winston type FA and pay the rooks?
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:31 PM   #31
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Lock Albert up now.
This. We need to finalize Bowe and Albert's deals. I'd also look into anyone else going FA next year. I'm not sure on the full list.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:45 PM   #32
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:48 PM   #33
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I agree with those who say its time to lock up Albert. He seems really excited about the team, especially with the addition of Winston.
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Ive heard stuff to the contrary going back before last year and it would be nice to see him make some remarks that are positive about his thoughts on staying in KC.

I heard he wanted to go to NY from the same guy that told me about the Haley finger pointing thing with McDaniels.

I hope you aren't just assuming...it would give me a sigh of relief in a sense.

Otherwise, I am just taking it for granted that he will NEED to be franchised and that in two years he will want out.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:10 PM   #34
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You can probably sign Belcher cheap halfway through the season if he looks good enough for it. Siler you can do another one-year deal.

Hillis can walk -- someone will over pay for him. Dorsey can walk too, he's too expensive and can be replaced.

Albert's the big fish, and will probably need to be franchised.

Lilja.... well. He may not even be on the team by this time next year.
Albert has been very average at his best, and I'd expect him to command a very average contract. In my eyes, he's anything but a big fish.

I'd wait to give him a new contract. Either he has yet another average year, or he plays very wheel and makes himself a few million more bucks.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:15 PM   #35
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Ive heard stuff to the contrary going back before last year and it would be nice to see him make some remarks that are positive about his thoughts on staying in KC.

I heard he wanted to go to NY from the same guy that told me about the Haley finger pointing thing with McDaniels.

I hope you aren't just assuming...it would give me a sigh of relief in a sense.

Otherwise, I am just taking it for granted that he will NEED to be franchised and that in two years he will want out.
Would you really franchise Albert? Do you think he deserves that kind of money?
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:25 PM   #36
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Albert turned a corner last year and I think his physical tools matched up with his mental preparation is something that isnt gonna go away.

He faced a premier pass rusher every week and had a great year.

Id give him a 5 year deal for franchise LT money right now.

Something like 5/45-50 is what I expet him to be looking for after this year...and Id give it to him.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:22 PM   #37
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i would think that Albert would be pretty happy now that Haley is gone.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:27 PM   #38
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Good point, Laz.

The last time I heard stuff about that was when Haley was still here.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:36 PM   #39
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Ive heard stuff to the contrary going back before last year and it would be nice to see him make some remarks that are positive about his thoughts on staying in KC.

I heard he wanted to go to NY from the same guy that told me about the Haley finger pointing thing with McDaniels.

I hope you aren't just assuming...it would give me a sigh of relief in a sense.

Otherwise, I am just taking it for granted that he will NEED to be franchised and that in two years he will want out.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:43 AM   #40
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Albert turned a corner last year and I think his physical tools matched up with his mental preparation is something that isnt gonna go away.

He faced a premier pass rusher every week and had a great year.

Id give him a 5 year deal for franchise LT money right now.

Something like 5/45-50 is what I expet him to be looking for after this year...and Id give it to him.
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Dorsey 5.586MM

We have 15MM in space left currently and can anticipate spending about 5MM of that on rookies. We also have to be wary of the fact that we lose 20MM in cap space next year. If I am the Chiefs, I look at trading Dorsey, trading down and drafting Brockers in the first and resigning Bowe and Albert each at about 5 years/40MM.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:16 AM   #41
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Albert 3.218MM
Bowe 9.443MM
Dorsey 5.586MM

We have 15MM in space left currently and can anticipate spending about 5MM of that on rookies. We also have to be wary of the fact that we lose 20MM in cap space next year. If I am the Chiefs, I look at trading Dorsey, trading down and drafting Brockers in the first and resigning Bowe and Albert each at about 5 years/40MM.
Good luck with resigning Bowe to that deal after Vincent Jackson got his 5 year 55 million deal.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:16 AM   #42
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Good luck with resigning Bowe to that deal after Vincent Jackson got his 5 year 55 million deal.
Vincent Jacksons Stats since 2005

2005 - 3 rec 59 yards receiving 0 tds
2006 - 27 rec 453 yards receiving 6 tds
2007 - 41 rec 623 yards receiving 3 tds
2008 - 59 rec 1098 yards receiving 7 tds
2009 - 68 rec 1167 yards receiving 9 tds
2010 - 14 rec 248 yards receiving 3 tds
2011 - 60 rec 1106 yards receiving 9 tds

Total - 272 rec 4754 yards receiving 37 tds

Dwayne Bowes Stats since 2007

2007 - 70 rec 995 yards receiving 5 tds
2008 - 86 rec 1022 yards receiving 7 tds
2009 - 47 rec 589 yards receiving 4 tds
2010 - 72 rec 1162 yards receiving 15 tds
2011 - 81 rec 1159 yards receiving 5 tds

Total - 356 rec 4927 yards receiving 36 tds

So explain to me why Bowe is not worthy of a contract like that when all numbers are similar except for the fact that Bowe did this all in a 5 year period compared to Jacksons 7 years in the league.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:19 AM   #43
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Currently:
Albert 3.218MM
Bowe 9.443MM
Dorsey 5.586MM

We have 15MM in space left currently and can anticipate spending about 5MM of that on rookies. We also have to be wary of the fact that we lose 20MM in cap space next year. If I am the Chiefs, I look at trading Dorsey, trading down and drafting Brockers in the first and resigning Bowe and Albert each at about 5 years/40MM.
Bowe is worth more than 40 MM. He deserves the same deal that Jackson got maybe more.
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Vincent Jacksons Stats since 2005

2005 - 3 rec 59 yards receiving 0 tds
2006 - 27 rec 453 yards receiving 6 tds
2007 - 41 rec 623 yards receiving 3 tds
2008 - 59 rec 1098 yards receiving 7 tds
2009 - 68 rec 1167 yards receiving 9 tds
2010 - 14 rec 248 yards receiving 3 tds
2011 - 60 rec 1106 yards receiving 9 tds

Total - 272 rec 4754 yards receiving 37 tds

Dwayne Bowes Stats since 2007

2007 - 70 rec 995 yards receiving 5 tds
2008 - 86 rec 1022 yards receiving 7 tds
2009 - 47 rec 589 yards receiving 4 tds
2010 - 72 rec 1162 yards receiving 15 tds
2011 - 81 rec 1159 yards receiving 5 tds

Total - 356 rec 4927 yards receiving 36 tds

So explain to me why Bowe is not worthy of a contract like that when all numbers are similar except for the fact that Bowe did this all in a 5 year period compared to Jacksons 7 years in the league.
He deserves big money.
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He deserves big money.
Yes he does. Haley did a great job with him. He actually deserves a 5 year deal worth 60 million in my opinion.
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