World Cup Draw

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Didn't see a thread for the World Cup draw. It is taking place right now on FS1 if anyone is interested.

I know some don't give a lick about soccer but some do. I'm not overly worried about the draw, just wanna know who we got and what our potential path to the knock out stages is going to be.

[BWillie]

Why doesn't the UK just have one team instead of England, Wales, Scotland? England hasn't been England in prior years or as Ive been told. Smallish country could conglomerate and have more talent.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

They fell apart the last 6 months with ties against inferior teams. Switzerland topped the group and they lost in the 93 min 0-1 in the first playoff game. (Had they won, they would need to face Portugal)

They were the Euro Champions.

It's also the 2nd WC in a row that they have failed to qualify for. Unreal.

To put it in perspective though. If the USA would have tied vs Panama on the 27th of March, they would have switched places with Costa Rica as the team who has to play New Zealand to get in.

If the USA would have lost to Panama, they would have been eliminated from qualifying. Thats how competitive the WC qualifying is.

Egypt (Salah, who is the best player in the Premier right now)... who got 2nd place this year (to Mane's Senegal) in the African Nations Cup, was eliminated by Senegal in African qualifiers and also did not qualify.

Chile / Colombia were both left out of South America by a couple points.

This is a top notch competition.

Can't believe that Italy haven't qualified for two consecutive World Cups. Especially the way they played in the Euros and they had a long unbeaten run in there as well - if I'm remembering correctly. Must've just been draw after draw

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why doesn't the UK just have one team instead of England, Wales, Scotland? England hasn't been England in prior years or as Ive been told. Smallish country could conglomerate and have more talent.

Think they only do the Great Britain thing during the Olympics - and I think that's for specific sports (could be wrong). But, if memory serves, Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc. all represent themselves at the World Cup level

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why doesn't the UK just have one team instead of England, Wales, Scotland? England hasn't been England in prior years or as Ive been told. Smallish country could conglomerate and have more talent.

Because Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland would not be well represented and it would be awfuly political. The women do it for the Olympics but that's about it. This is speaking soccer terms, athletics and other sports compete as team Great Britain

[Dante84]

Are the game dates/times out yet?

I know the order of the games, but want to block off game days so I don’t get stuck going to some shitty work holiday party when the boys are playing.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC

It is definitely going to be interesting to see how viewership goes. Especially if the US plays on a Sunday. I think the one thing that will bode well, in terms of the world cup competing for eyes with the NFL, is the games shouldn't be happening during the same window since they're on different sides of the world.

It's pretty telling when broadcasting stuff in the middle of the freaking night "bodes well".

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

You Colonial traitors will be taught a lesson 😂

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC

Just like in 2010 right

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Touché

You teach us lessons in friendly matches, and then we always remind you that when there are things to play for you’ll never beat us. This year should be no different to keep our undefeated streak alive against you all in real competitions. Always love seeing the inevitable collapse of English hopes in world competitions. It’s even more exciting when we get to play a part in it ourselves.

[KC_Connection]

Canada is getting out of Group F.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The World Cup taking place in November going up against the NFL… it will be completely invisible in the US.

That's not close to being true. World Cup games are primarily played on week days...the only thing that will hurt ratings is the fact that live kickoff times are before the roosters are up.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's pretty telling when broadcasting stuff in the middle of the freaking night "bodes well".

Originally Posted by Woogieman

That's not close to being true. World Cup games are primarily played on week days...the only thing that will hurt ratings is the fact that live kickoff times are before the roosters are up.

Will these be in the middle of the night, like the last Olympics was? If so that sucks.

Seems the last couple have managed to be during the day here in the US, which is pretty cool because it has a NCAA tournament feel to it. And the bars were packed during those USA day games.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by sedated

Will these be in the middle of the night, like the last Olympics was? If so that sucks.

Seems the last couple have managed to be during the day here in the US, which is pretty cool because it has a NCAA tournament feel to it. And the bars were packed during those USA day games.

It all depends on location and scheduling. Europe, for example, is anywhere from 5 to 8 hours ahead of us.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by sedated

Will these be in the middle of the night, like the last Olympics was? If so that sucks.

Seems the last couple have managed to be during the day here in the US, which is pretty cool because it has a NCAA tournament feel to it. And the bars were packed during those USA day games.

Morning/Lunch games.

Kick off times for the group games will be 5am, 8am, 11am and 2pm (EST) Kick-off times in the final round of group games and knockout round matches will be at 10am and 2pm EST. Final will be 10 am EST.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It all depends on location and scheduling. Europe, for example, is anywhere from 5 to 8 hours ahead of us.

Qatar is 8 hrs ahead of central time, so games will start early morning and then end around 1 or 2 pm probably so they shouldn’t be as bad as Olympics timing wise

[alpha_omega]

World Cup draw 2022: USMNT draw England, Iran; Spain get Germany; Lionel Messi to face Robert Lewandowski

USMNT will get England, Iran, and to be determined European side (Ukraine, Wales or Scotland)
The 2022 FIFA World Cup draw was held on Friday in Doha and this year's event in Qatar promises early drama after a number of intriguing group draws.

The USMNT will meet England, Iran and possibly Scotland, Wales or Ukraine too in Group B while the hosts have drawn the Netherlands, Ecuador and Senegal in Group A.

Defending champions France will face Denmark again after their 2018 meeting and could also be reunited with Peru or Australia as well as Tunisia in Group D while Mexico are up against Argentina, Poland and Saudi Arabia in a spicy Group C.

Group E is where the heavyweights are at with Spain and Germany together as well as Japan and the winner of Costa Rica against New Zealand while Canada are in Group F with Croatia and Morocco.

In Group G, Brazil got Switzerland, Serbia and Cameroon while Portugal are joined by Ghana, Uruguay and South Korea in Group H.

Qatar will open the World Cup against Ecuador at Al Bayt Stadium in Al Khor.

World Cup groups
Group A: Qatar, Ecuador, Senegal, Netherlands
Group B: England, Iran, USA, Scotland/Ukraine or Wales
Group C: Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland
Group D: France, Australia/UAE or Peru, Denmark, Tunisia
Group E: Spain, Costa Rica or New Zealand, Germany, Japan
Group F: Belgium, Canada, Morocco, Croatia
Group G: Brazil, Serbia, Switzerland, Cameroon
Group H: Portugal, Ghana, Uruguay, South Kore

Winners and losers
Now that the World Cup groups have been drawn, we can look at the makeup of the eight pools and assess who has received the best and worst scenarios. Group B with the USMNT and England, Argentina and Mexico in Group C, Spain and Germany in Group E as well as Canada in Group F with Belgium, Croatia and Morocco are all fascinating.

Some winners and losers.

Winner: Netherlands

The Dutch will feel very happy with their draw, but hosts Qatar will feel equally grateful that Oranje are perhaps their strongest opponents on paper. Anything could happen with Senegal and Ecuador, but Louis Van Gaal's men certainly feel like favorites here.

Loser: Iran

Although the outcome of Scotland, Wales and Ukraine's playoff is not yet known, this already feels like a tough one for the Iranians. This group will not be short of talking points around any of Iran's games, but they will really need to hit the ground running to stand a chance of making it out.

Winner: England

USMNT rivalry aside, the Three Lions will feel pleased with their group as Iran and the winner of Scotland, Wales or Ukraine's eventual UEFA playoff should not cause too much fear. The Scottish and Welsh will have that added motivation given the rivalry which could make the Americans their key adversaries.

Loser: Tunisia

France, Denmark and then potentially a Peru, Australia or a UAE is a tough task for the Tunisians. Les Bleus is a bit of a rivalry while Denmark have emerged as an extremely difficult team to beat. Depending on who joins this group, third place could be considered an achievement.

Winner: France

The defending champions will be undaunted by drawing strong qualifiers Denmark who they know well from 2018. However, they also drew the Danes in 2002 when they crashed out as titleholders from 1998, so there is that to consider. Tunisia is an intriguing pairing given the significant links between the two countries while the playoff winners could see Les Bleus up against two of the three teams they faced in their Russia group in 2018. Will it be enough for them to become the first title holders to escape their group since Brazil won in 2002 and then advanced in 2006.

Loser: Japan

Getting Spain and Germany is pretty brutal with a playoff team to be added to the mix as well. On paper, the Germans and Spanish will be expected to advance, but Samurai Blue have shown in the past that they are capable of springing a surprise -- they need another here.

Winner: Brazil

Despite Serbia's improvement and Switzerland's solid nature, the South Americans will fancy themselves against all of their opponents. On paper, at least, this risks getting brutal for Cameroon unless they can build quickly under Rigobert Song's leadership.

Loser: Cameroon

Arguably favorites to finish bottom of their group given Brazil, Switzerland and Serbia's strength, the Africans need to use these next few months wisely. Changing coach in a World Cup year is never easy, but that has now happened and the Indomitable Lions will at least be motivated to play for such a legendary figure.

Winner: USMNT

That's a good draw for the U.S. They won't be close to a lock for the round of 16 by any means, but they should feel good about their chances. They are going to want Scotland, but it will likely be Wales or Ukraine, and that really could go either way. England should beat the U.S., but the Americans have a knack for pulling off some big group stage results. They did get far and away the best draw out of all the Concacaf teams. Mexico have to play big boys Argentina and a formidable Poland side. Canada have two semifinalists from 2018 in Belgium and Croatia in their group, and if Costa Rica make it, they just have to worry about Spain and Germany -- Roger Gonzalez

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[sedated]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Morning/Lunch games.

Kick off times for the group games will be 5am, 8am, 11am and 2pm (EST) Kick-off times in the final round of group games and knockout round matches will be at 10am and 2pm EST. Final will be 10 am EST.

That is going to be some early drinking.

I wonder if some bars/P&L/etc will open early enough for a 9am game if USA makes the knockout round.