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Old 01-25-2015, 10:39 PM  
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Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

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The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.
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Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.


In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.
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Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:05 PM   #16
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I've had good fun fighting with Hootie over the years about it, but don't get too crazy.... Wilson is just good at making the key plays at key points. Like he did in the NFC title game.

But life is obviously much easier when your defense allows about 14 ppg. You still need a defense to win a championship. And he's playing with probably the best defense of the last 15 years. They would help a lot of QBs win more games than they normally would.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:06 PM   #17
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lmfao

yeah

I agree

Manning and Brady would have both lead this Seahawks team to multiple Super Bowls

you know

the same thing Russell Wilson is doing

you are really good at making terrible points
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:07 PM   #18
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these are the same people who consider Tom Brady to be the "hands down" best QB of this generation

...but ignore the fact he won 3 Super Bowls because he played on a team with a great defense, great special teams and a great coach

you know

kinda like Russell

...the hypocrisy on this board when it comes to QB's is hilarious to me
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:09 PM   #19
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:10 PM   #20
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Please Hootie,

enlighten us on what Russell Wilson did to win the Seahawks a Super Bowl last season.

His stats were certainly "elite"
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:10 PM   #21
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6-1 in the playoffs
2 straight Super Bowls

and overrated

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Old 01-25-2015, 11:11 PM   #22
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GoChargers doesn't think Seattle should give him an extension. He thinks they should let him walk. I am not kidding. He said this in the thread last week during the Packers game.
Look at the stats in the OP. Does that look like someone who deserves to be the highest-paid quarterback in football? Especially considering that the running game and defense that have been carrying his ass would become too expensive to keep?
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these are the same people who consider Tom Brady to be the "hands down" best QB of this generation

...but ignore the fact he won 3 Super Bowls because he played on a team with a great defense, great special teams and a great coach

you know

kinda like Russell

...the hypocrisy on this board when it comes to QB's is hilarious to me
When these great players surrounding Russell Wilson retire and he's still leading them to NFC Championships and SB appearances let us know.
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Please Hootie,

enlighten us on what Russell Wilson did to win the Seahawks a Super Bowl last season.

His stats were certainly "elite"
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6-1 in the playoffs
2 straight Super Bowls

and overrated

lolz
Funny how playoff records suddenly matter when it's Wilson, but whenever anyone brings up Fivehead's NFL-record playoff losses and one-and-dones, you fly off into a temper tantrum.
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The only reason our defense is. So good is because our qb is so clutch, our d knows Russ can bring the team back so keep playin hard.. This is a good TEAM. That is what a lot of people unfamiliar with this team don't get.
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It's pretty hilarious that posters here say Alex Smith sucks and had nothing to do with the 49ers winning a lot of games because he had talent everywhere

….

and then don't acknowledge that the same exact thing is happening in Seattle with Russell Wilson.
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Put enough talent around any QB and they have a chance to go to the SB. Case and point: Trent Dilfer and Rex Grossman.

Manning would have went to at least least 3 more SB's with that kinda team.
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4th down, 4th quarter TD passes when your team is down 17-13

no, not helpful at all ... just like Peyton had nothing to do with his one Super Bowl win ... nothing at all ... trailing NE by 18 in the AFCCG ... all defense right there

it's a stupid ****ing argument

Russell is the most valuable player on a team that is going to two straight Super Bowls and has won 6 straight playoff games
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The only reason our defense is. So good is because our qb is so clutch, our d knows Russ can bring the team back so keep playin hard.. This is a good TEAM. That is what a lot of people unfamiliar with this team don't get.
It's one of the best built teams I've ever seen, and Wilson does his role well, but anybody saying that Russell Wilson is an elite quarterback is crazy.
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