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Old 01-25-2015, 10:39 PM  
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The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.
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Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.

In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.
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Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:36 PM   #151
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In 10 years people will look back to the Packers/Hawks game and say "how the hell did GB completely **** this up and lose this game with 4 mins left on an onside kick and 2 point conversion."
In 10 years, people like you will still be wondering how come russell wilson has 4 rings.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:37 PM   #152
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I said that wrong. The guy who threw 3 INTs had to lean on his defense and rely on luck more.
That still doesn't make him equal to a guy who throws 3 TDs and blows the other team out.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:38 PM   #153
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Guess how many picks Joe has in 4 SBs.
In the 89 and 90 seasons when Joe won back-to-back SB's, he had 22 TD's to 2 INT's through that run. That's amazing and unheard of.

But Russell Wilson is better according Hootie.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:42 PM   #154
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In 10 years, people like you will still be wondering how come russell wilson has 4 rings.
Because of the same reason Trent Dilfer has one.
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Because of the same reason Trent Dilfer has one.
NO. Trent Dilfer NEVER made plays like Wilson has in the postseason.
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Because of the same reason Trent Dilfer has one.
Obviously never saw dilfer play.
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NO. Trent Dilfer NEVER made plays like Wilson has in the postseason.
Wilson won a playoff game last year where he threw for 108 yards 0 TDs



He's amazing!
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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In the 89 and 90 seasons when Joe won back-to-back SB's, he had 22 TD's to 2 INT's through that run. That's amazing and unheard of.

But Russell Wilson is better according Hootie.
where in god's name did I say Russell Wilson is better than Joe Montana?
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you made the brilliant comment that no one would remember what Wilson and Seattle did in 10 years against Green Bay two weeks ago

I referenced Joe Montana having a 4 turnover, NFC Championship Game that just so happened to feature "The Catch" at the end.

and me, being less than 30, had NO IDEA he had 4 turnovers that game. I only knew he made 1 remarkable throw at the end.

So I debunked your idiotic myth using a real life example ...

and somehow you concluded I said Russell Wilson > Joe Montana

that's how stupid you are
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Wilson won a playoff game last year where he threw for 108 yards 0 TDs



He's amazing!
...why are you cherry picking 1 game out of 7?

You do realize that every great QB in NFL history has had a poor playoff game.

Right?

and if you actually watched this game, you'd have realized the conditions were MISERABLE and Drew Brees couldn't throw the ball for shit, either. The game was over before it started.

But great cherry pick, man.

Ben Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl going 9-21 for 123 yards and 2 INT's

Tom Brady threw for 140 yards in his first Super Bowl.
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Wilson won a playoff game last year where he threw for 108 yards 0 TDs



He's amazing!
Tom brady had an identical playoff game

He sucks!
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You do realize that every great QB in NFL history has had a poor playoff game.


I'd say this is the best PO resume of any QB off the top of my head.
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...why are you cherry picking 1 game out of 7?

You do realize that every great QB in NFL history has had a poor playoff game.

Right?

and if you actually watched this game, you'd have realized the conditions were MISERABLE and Drew Brees couldn't throw the ball for shit, either. The game was over before it started.

But great cherry pick, man.

Ben Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl going 9-21 for 123 yards and 2 INT's

Tom Brady threw for 140 yards in his first Super Bowl.

I'm not the one saying he sucks or he's super awesome.


He's above average. He's just not "special"
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I'd say this is the best PO resume of any QB off the top of my head.
omg Kurt Warner won a Super Bowl and threw 3 picks in the NFCCG in 1999!? And only scored 11 points?!?!?!

no hall of fame! his defense carried him to a championship!
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I'm not the one saying he sucks or he's super awesome.


He's above average. He's just not "special"
was Tom Brady "special" in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004?
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