Chiefs Worst to First? - Page 4

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-12-2013, 04:04 PM

And the ESPN/NFL Network love fest for the chiefs continue. On NFL Live they said the chiefs were the most likely team to go worst to first in our division, and yes they all realized Peyton Manning is still the qb for the Broncos.

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Oh wow, gaining a CB who probably won't start, and losing a guy who was regarded as terrible on this board until he left Denver? That sure will take a defense from #2 to horrible.

At least we beat all the terrible teams in our division. You guys couldn't beat a 7 win team, even though you had 2 games against them.

The rams were terrible? Or young? The rams also played everyone tough, because that is what a jeff fisher team does. Im all about watching shit play out. This is why I hate Broncos fans, and the Broncos, you are the most arrogant pieces of shit on the planet.

Lonewolf Ed · 07-13-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledFan

I love the old guy in the center there with his arms folded, looking like he is about to let loose a hearty harrrrrumph while everyone else is clapping and cheering!

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Johnson, Houston and Hali were all in the Pro Bowl in 2012.

Consider that Houston and Hali combined for 19 sacks in 2012 when their pass rush opportunities were severely limited due to the Chiefs being behind for the vast majority of the season. If the Chiefs offense can generate any type of ball control in 2013 and keep our pass rushers fresh, I think that they can easily equal the 26.5 sacks put up by Smith and Brooks.

And Johnson had more solo tackles than either Bowman or Willis in 2012. (110 versus 96 and 88 respectively.) If Nico Johnson is able to pick up the defense quickly and put his size and athleticism to work, they could easily have a linebacking corps that is very close to what the 49er's put on the field.

I respect the takes. I think the Chiefs have a chance to have a very good lb corps. I personally, wouldn't take Houston or hali over Smith as a pass rusher, and I definitely wouldn't take Johnson, over EITHER willis or bowman, and there is some homerism there of course. But, Bowman, and Willis, are just on another planet as Middle Linebackers.........

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I respect the takes. I think the Chiefs have a chance to have a very good lb corps. I personally, wouldn't take Houston or hali over Smith as a pass rusher, and I definitely wouldn't take Johnson, over EITHER willis or bowman, and there is some homerism there of course. But, Bowman, and Willis, are just on another planet as Middle Linebackers.........

Name any 3-4 defense that has more than 3 pro bowlers at LB.

I'll wait...

RunKC · 07-13-2013, 11:17 AM

We're not gonna be better than the Broncos, though I think we can split with them.

The Broncos offense will be the best in the league next year. They have the best WR core in the league and it's really not that close. Our defense has some great pieces, BUT we still don't have the DL to get enough consistent pressure on Manning.
And my God Dunta Robinson vs Wes Welker is the biggest mismatch ever. Welker will OWN Robinson. I hope we just put Berry on him bc he's probably our best shot at covering him.

Manning is still gonna be a top 10 QB, probably still top 5. Until I see him decline, he's still there. Last year proved he was still elite.

But the Broncos defense isn't scary at all. Outside of Von Miller, they don't have any standout players IMO. Champ is old, Phillips fed off very good DE's last year who took up blocks for him, and who else do they have that should scare us?

Charles will get his yards, our bookend OT's are going to make it difficult for Von to get sacks off the edge and I LOVE our TE matchups against their LB's. Absolutely love it.

Broncos will win around 12 or 13 again and we'll win 8 or 9 IMO.

We still need to build our team up more.

RunKC · 07-13-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I respect the takes. I think the Chiefs have a chance to have a very good lb corps. I personally, wouldn't take Houston or hali over Smith as a pass rusher, and I definitely wouldn't take Johnson, over EITHER willis or bowman, and there is some homerism there of course. But, Bowman, and Willis, are just on another planet as Middle Linebackers.........

Aldon Smith is nothing without Justin Smith. He got his ass raped and exposed when Justin Smith got hurt last year.

RunKC · 07-13-2013, 11:25 AM

Honestly there are so many questions on our team for me to expect them to automatically be a playoff team this year.

Questions at DL, #2 WR, CB (I like Smith and hope he works out in our scheme) and interior OL (specifically LG and C) are all unknowns.

I think we'll be better equiped in 2014 once we have another draft and FA to build the team more.
Remember, Pioli did such a horrible job with this team that our new regime had to use FA to fill a bunch of his **** up's.

Sandy Vagina · 07-13-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Aldon Smith is nothing without Justin Smith. He got his ass raped and exposed when Justin Smith got hurt last year.

Not true. Aldon played for 2 months with a serious injury (torn labrum) during the same time when Justin was hurt.

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Name any 3-4 defense that has more than 3 pro bowlers at LB.

I'll wait...

...

MagicHef · 07-13-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

The rams were terrible? Or young? The rams also played everyone tough, because that is what a jeff fisher team does. Im all about watching shit play out. This is why I hate Broncos fans, and the Broncos, you are the most arrogant pieces of shit on the planet.

They had the same number of wins as the Chargers, who we swept.

Discuss Thrower · 07-13-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly there are so many questions on our team for me to expect them to automatically be a playoff team this year.

Questions at DL, #2 WR, CB (I like Smith and hope he works out in our scheme) and interior OL (specifically LG and C) are all unknowns.

I think we'll be better equiped in 2014 once we have another draft and FA to build the team more.
Remember, Pioli did such a horrible job with this team that our new regime had to use FA to fill a bunch of his **** up's.

DL is an issue until Poe/Powe/DeVito prove otherwise, yes.

#2 WR can be negated with great TE play and average to good slot receiver usage, but still a question.

I think the offensive line will be fine outside of center.

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly there are so many questions on our team for me to expect them to automatically be a playoff team this year.

The answers are all from the top down.

The idea that a SB coach only does one thing great is a joke.

Winners know the X's and 0's. They know talent. They motivate their team.

All three. Not 1 or 2 of the 3 necessary...

Bambi · 07-13-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledFan

bwahahaha! Is this real?

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

bwahahaha! Is this real?

When has it not been?...

CoMoChief · 07-13-2013, 11:55 AM

If Alex Smith continues to improve from where he left off at SF, and maybe adds a little bit of distance in his passing game, then we can most certainly challenge Denver for the division title or perhaps a WC spot.

But honestly I don't expect that. I expect for us to be much better offensively because Smith will have all the tools in the world to play/benefit with and the only way is to go up considering how ****ing terrible we were esp in the passing game. But he's never been a stud QB that makes others better. He's a game managing QB who doesn't take chances downfield. But he will have a good solid Oline, superstar runningback, a pro-bowl caliber WR in Bowe, plus a couple other former first round WR picks that have talent, but haven't reached full potential, and a rookie TE that seems like he can make a little noise this season. Not sure if Moeaki even makes the team. If he's fully healthy and does, great! - We'll have a double TE set that can create matchup problems and is also something AS exceeds at.

With the new coaches, I think this season will be an adjustment period as everyone gets a feel for eachother, it will just look a lot better because Reid's a much better coach and brings a lot more to the table than Haley or Crennel. But this season? Anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7 and at best we sneak into a WC spot. It's next season 2014 is when I think we can knock Denver off for division champ, get a 1-2 seed in the playoffs w/ HF advantage and will make a deep run, hopefully a SB. Also next season we draft a QB in the first rd and don't pay AS until the season's end, if he's worth being resigned.

07-12-2013, 04:04 PM
Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	Worst to First? And the ESPN/NFL Network love fest for the chiefs continue. On NFL Live they said the chiefs were the most likely team to go worst to first in our division, and yes they all realized Peyton Manning is still the qb for the Broncos.
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07-13-2013, 11:17 AM	#50
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1979611	We're not gonna be better than the Broncos, though I think we can split with them. The Broncos offense will be the best in the league next year. They have the best WR core in the league and it's really not that close. Our defense has some great pieces, BUT we still don't have the DL to get enough consistent pressure on Manning. And my God Dunta Robinson vs Wes Welker is the biggest mismatch ever. Welker will OWN Robinson. I hope we just put Berry on him bc he's probably our best shot at covering him. Manning is still gonna be a top 10 QB, probably still top 5. Until I see him decline, he's still there. Last year proved he was still elite. But the Broncos defense isn't scary at all. Outside of Von Miller, they don't have any standout players IMO. Champ is old, Phillips fed off very good DE's last year who took up blocks for him, and who else do they have that should scare us? Charles will get his yards, our bookend OT's are going to make it difficult for Von to get sacks off the edge and I LOVE our TE matchups against their LB's. Absolutely love it. Broncos will win around 12 or 13 again and we'll win 8 or 9 IMO. We still need to build our team up more. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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07-13-2013, 11:25 AM	#52
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1979611	Honestly there are so many questions on our team for me to expect them to automatically be a playoff team this year. Questions at DL, #2 WR, CB (I like Smith and hope he works out in our scheme) and interior OL (specifically LG and C) are all unknowns. I think we'll be better equiped in 2014 once we have another draft and FA to build the team more. Remember, Pioli did such a horrible job with this team that our new regime had to use FA to fill a bunch of his ** up's. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray**
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07-13-2013, 11:55 AM	#60
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8032254	If Alex Smith continues to improve from where he left off at SF, and maybe adds a little bit of distance in his passing game, then we can most certainly challenge Denver for the division title or perhaps a WC spot. But honestly I don't expect that. I expect for us to be much better offensively because Smith will have all the tools in the world to play/benefit with and the only way is to go up considering how ****ing terrible we were esp in the passing game. But he's never been a stud QB that makes others better. He's a game managing QB who doesn't take chances downfield. But he will have a good solid Oline, superstar runningback, a pro-bowl caliber WR in Bowe, plus a couple other former first round WR picks that have talent, but haven't reached full potential, and a rookie TE that seems like he can make a little noise this season. Not sure if Moeaki even makes the team. If he's fully healthy and does, great! - We'll have a double TE set that can create matchup problems and is also something AS exceeds at. With the new coaches, I think this season will be an adjustment period as everyone gets a feel for eachother, it will just look a lot better because Reid's a much better coach and brings a lot more to the table than Haley or Crennel. But this season? Anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7 and at best we sneak into a WC spot. It's next season 2014 is when I think we can knock Denver off for division champ, get a 1-2 seed in the playoffs w/ HF advantage and will make a deep run, hopefully a SB. Also next season we draft a QB in the first rd and don't pay AS until the season's end, if he's worth being resigned. __________________
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