Chiefs The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll - Page 32

Frankie · 02-08-2013, 01:23 PM

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

**RealSNR** · 02-10-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

I'm afraid to turn anything on around you Mr. Rape. You seem to be classless and deranged.

There is no way you chose those particular words and are not a troll.

Go the **** away whoever the **** you are. Get raped.

ChiefsCountry · 02-10-2013, 08:38 PM

So whose mult is HotCarl lol.

Frankie · 02-10-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Yep.

All other avenues he tried were ultra fail.

He's not about to risk his new job on some slapdick QB.

Deep down we all felt that was the case with Piolli too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-10-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Trading for Matt Cassel was considered baby steps. Gotta walk before you can run. Gotta win a playoff game before you win a Super Bowl.

How about we stop with the small goals? How about if a guy can't be a Super Bowl-quality player, we don't acquire him? Let's do that instead of guys that can just be good enough for the playoffs. That's what we've been doing up to this point, and it hasn't worked.

Alex Smith can't/won't win a Super Bowl. Regardless of how good the Chiefs have been in the past, he's not worth our time or our money. Period.

I hated the Cassel trade and don't want Alex Smith, even for a single year.

The issue I'm seeing is that there are many people convinced that G. Smith is a savior and should be acquired, regardless of whether or not he's worthy of being number #1 overall. And if he's not, Reid is a failure.

It's really quite bizarre.

milkman · 02-10-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I hated the Cassel trade and don't want Alex Smith, even for a single year.

The issue I'm seeing is that there are many people convinced that G. Smith is a savior and should be acquired, regardless of whether or not he's worthy of being number #1 overall. And if he's not, Reid is a failure.

It's really quite bizarre.

No, we see a talented QB with a lot of potential, and what should be easily fixed mechanical issues.

We also see an opportunity to take the best QB in his class, and understand there's some risk involved, but the potential reward is greater than the risk in this new CBA era.

**RealSNR** · 02-10-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I hated the Cassel trade and don't want Alex Smith, even for a single year.

The issue I'm seeing is that there are many people convinced that G. Smith is a savior and should be acquired, regardless of whether or not he's worthy of being number #1 overall. And if he's not, Reid is a failure.

It's really quite bizarre.

Dude, I think I'm just going to have to leave these posts alone until the draft is over. I really do think you're grossly misrepresenting what people believe about Geno Smith on this board.

Geno Smith MIGHT be a Super Bowl QB. He has the potential. And if he goes to KC, he'll have the coaching staff to put him in that position. He's not a savior, but lots of people like him and want him to be a Chief. You don't have to label it as a religious fervor. In fact, you SHOULDN'T. Because that's not what's going on. At all.

Alex Smith will NOT be a Super Bowl QB. Ever. Barring, of course, a Trent Dilfer-like experience, which I'm not anticipating to happen in the NFL ever again.

That's why so many people are positive on Geno and negative on Alex Smith.

If Andy drafts Geno Smith, and Geno busts, Andy is not a failure. If Andy punts on this QB issue in year one by trading for Alex Smith/Matt Flynn/Nick Foles, then yes, he absolutely IS a failure. Right out of the gate. No questions asked.

Reerun_KC · 02-10-2013, 08:53 PM

Draft a QB or be fired....

B14ckmon · 02-10-2013, 09:38 PM

Tyler Wilson will probably be the best QB in the draft. Imagine if the Raiders took him and just went off.

Sorter · 02-10-2013, 09:39 PM

That's too bad Frankie.

Frankie · 02-10-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

That's too bad Frankie.

Fret not. Getting a chance to remove your ultra annoying signature is quite tempting. But I still don't play these silly betting games.

Sorter · 02-10-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Fret not. Getting a chance to remove your ultra annoying signature is quite tempting. But I still don't play these silly betting games.

I would have ****ing worn my new sig with pride had you agreed and won.

NJChiefsFan · 02-10-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

I'm afraid to turn anything on around you Mr. Rape. You seem to be classless and deranged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

There is no way you chose those particular words and are not a troll.

Go the **** away whoever the **** you are. Get raped.

patteeu · 02-10-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And just like I said, you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

Yeah, you don't think Tim Tebow was a great college QB and I'm the guy who doesn't have a clue. Brilliant.

patteeu · 02-10-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Assumption? It's a fact based on history.

Do you think Alex smith is the guy to buck that trend?

I doubt that Alex Smith is the guy to buck that trend for the same reason you're sure of it. But neither of us are in a position to judge, which is why we resort to crude guesses based on historical statistics.

It's not a "fact" based on history. If history could produce facts like that, nothing would ever happen for the first time, which is preposterous.

HotCarl · 02-10-2013, 11:04 PM

History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.

View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel	40	31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei	30	23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones	19	14.73%
Other (who, why?)	40	31.01%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll Scenario (hypothetical): It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either. There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on: 1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk) 2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut) 3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon) 4- Other (name and explain) KEEP IN MIND This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $458752	So whose mult is HotCarl lol.
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HotCarl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $10004900	History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.
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