Alex Smith to ask for release

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm not cool with the draft picks for Smith either. As a FA, I have a little more interest.

He is well versed in the WCO, and could at the very least provide some quality competition to which ever QB we draft in April. Competition at the QB position, as we all know, can not be a bad thing.

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[CaliforniaChief]

Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.

[AndChiefs]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.

I agree. If Smith (or whatever QB we draft) needs a year or two to develop then I'd be okay with it. But have a true competition (ala Wilson in Seattle). If Geno wins it you start him with no regard to Alex's feelings.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

I agree. If Smith (or whatever QB we draft) needs a year or two to develop then I'd be okay with it. But have a true competition (ala Wilson in Seattle). If Geno wins it you start him with no regard to Alex's feelings.

And this too!

[Rasputin]

Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.

You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.

I have no NO desire to see Alex Smith in a Chief uniform none. Same as it ever was. His age and he is a retread. I don't think he is the kind of QB you would ask to pass the ball 40+ times like Andy Reid is wanting to ask the QB to do. He relies on the run game and playaction. I don't see Alex Smith having the arm strength and have to rely on his arm that many times a game each and every week.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.

Absolutely!

[ChiefMojo]

I would be fine with that set-up. Regardless we need to draft a QB and get the best possible FA QB. If the new drafted QB needs time, we will have a solid option for the time being as a quality stop gap (2-3 years). Alex Smith is a better QB than Matt Cassel and at this moment is all that matters.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Sure he wants to be a starter. But there's also got to be some hurt over the way he was unceremoniously dumped as the starter due to injury. It was embarrassing for him no doubt.

With that said, I'd absolutely be fine with the following plan:

1. Do not re-sign Quinn.
2. Release Cassel.
3. Sign Alex Smith as a FA (I would never give up picks for him.)
4. Draft Geno Smith.

Next year, let there be a true competition for the starting spot. Knowing that we've got our QBOTF on the roster and learning under Reid/Pederson would actually allow me to be ok with Alex Smith as a 1 year "bridge" type starter.

...Why would he sign with a team who just drafted a QB #1 overall if he wants to start?

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

...Why would he sign with a team who just drafted a QB #1 overall if he wants to start?

Because Free Agency is before the draft?

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

Because Free Agency is before the draft?

Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

As I already said...

1. There's probably more to it than Smith just not wanting to be a backup. SF experience was embarrassing.
2. He could be a bridge-type one-year starter in KC.
3. The market for starting QB's in terms of FA's isn't that strong.

In addition:
1. Reid's offense could be a nice fit for Smith.
2. Chiefs have the money and cap space to do it.

If you honestly think Alex Smith wants to go from a backup QB collecting Super Bowl rings, to a backup in Kansas City, I offer you this ketchup popsicle and pair of white gloves.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?

I'd say there is about a 95% chance of this happening, yes.