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Old 12-14-2012, 03:52 PM   #1
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RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?
Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year.

You never "know" anything as there is always risk with any player no matter what someone says.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:53 PM   #2
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Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year.
Other than that whole winning the Heisman thing. let's not rewrite history.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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Other than that whole winning the Heisman thing. let's not rewrite history.
Because everyone expects Heisman winning QB's to be special in the NFL. Go back and check mock drafts from this time last year. Hell there was a debate on if we should take him at 11 if he was there.

You heard all the usual crap. "He's a running QB." "He plays in the spread." "The offense and/or WR's are the reason for his numbers".

Let's not rewrite history that him and Luck were 1A and 1B all season long.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:19 PM   #4
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Because everyone expects Heisman winning QB's to be special in the NFL. Go back and check mock drafts from this time last year. Hell there was a debate on if we should take him at 11 if he was there.

You heard all the usual crap. "He's a running QB." "He plays in the spread." "The offense and/or WR's are the reason for his numbers".

Let's not rewrite history that him and Luck were 1A and 1B all season long.
I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:22 PM   #5
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I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
I guess it depends on what you mean by special. Nobody was saying he would do in the NFL what he is doing right now for sure.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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I guess it depends on what you mean by special. Nobody was saying he would do in the NFL what he is doing right now for sure.
Speak for yourself.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #7
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I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
In his 1st December mock draft, Todd McShay had RG3 going THIRTY SECOND.

The "nobody thought RG3 was anything special this time last year" is ABSOLUTELY true when it comes to the pundits.

Now if you're talking about this and other message boards, lots of people thought he was special.

But Kiper, McShay, and all these idiots saying there's no QB worth a 1st round pick this year had RG3 at the BOTTOM of their first round this time last year.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:56 PM   #8
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In his 1st December mock draft, Todd McShay had RG3 going THIRTY SECOND.

The "nobody thought RG3 was anything special this time last year" is ABSOLUTELY true when it comes to the pundits.

Now if you're talking about this and other message boards, lots of people thought he was special.

But Kiper, McShay, and all these idiots saying there's no QB worth a 1st round pick this year had RG3 at the BOTTOM of their first round this time last year.
Meanwhile, some of the CP prognosticators correctly predicted that he would go much much earlier.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:07 PM   #9
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In his 1st December mock draft, Todd McShay had RG3 going THIRTY SECOND.

The "nobody thought RG3 was anything special this time last year" is ABSOLUTELY true when it comes to the pundits.

Now if you're talking about this and other message boards, lots of people thought he was special.

But Kiper, McShay, and all these idiots saying there's no QB worth a 1st round pick this year had RG3 at the BOTTOM of their first round this time last year.
NFP had him at 5 on 12/7/11. Kiper had him at 4 in January.

So no, 'nobody thought RGIII was anything special at this time last year" is bullshit. I'm right.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:18 PM   #10
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NFP had him at 5 on 12/7/11. Kiper had him at 4 in January.

So no, 'nobody thought RGIII was anything special at this time last year" is bullshit. I'm right.
Tony Pauline of SI also had him at 12 the first week of November. By December he had climbed even more (I also found the NFP rating you did).
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
This I'll concede. Our coaching staff( along with management, ownership, hot dog vendors etc.)is absolute dogshit and twice as useless.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #13
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
Tony Dungy won a Super Bowl. Lovie Smith and Bill Callahan coached in Super Bowls.

Without the QB, coaching means nothing.

And with the RIGHT QB, even mediocre coaches can win it all.
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