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Old 12-12-2012, 04:54 PM  
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ESPN radio hosts mock transgender college ball player
This has got to be the ugliest and scariest looking women I've seen.

HeShe is 50 years old, was a dude, had his balls and dong clipped, and now plays for a women's college team in California. (Where else but in the land of fruits and nuts!)

This is gross..........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2276979.html

UPDATE: Steve Czaban and Andy Pollin were temporarily suspended from hosting their show, USA Today reported late Tuesday.

A gay sports outlet has called for the suspension of ESPN Radio/Washington D.C. hosts Steve Czaban and Andy Pollin for mocking transgender college basketball player Gabrielle Ludwig. (Hear the segment above.)

Ludwig, 50, of Fremont, Calif., earned national attention last week when she made her debut for Mission College in the Bay Area 32 years after playing as a man in college. (Watch the video below.)

Outsports says Czaban and Pollin committed a flagrant foul on their Thursday show, referring to Ludwig as "he/she" and "it" while making snide remarks about her appearance.

The news outlet also cited Czaban's conclusion that transgender athletes should not play sports: ”Whatever you’ve got to do to scratch that inner itch and quell those inner demons, that’s fine," he said. "But don’t go playing sports then. And don’t go playing sports saying, ‘but I’ve go the rights of everyone else.' "

Outsports wrote:
"There is simply no legitimate reaction the station could possibly have but to suspend everyone involved. These are disgusting comments of the highest order, meant to demean another human being who has broken no rules and no laws. These men are a disgrace to their profession, and they should be suspended without pay."
The two hosts issued a brief apology on Monday. Chuck Sapienza, the station's vice president for programming, told USA Today the hosts' remarks were "extremely insensitive" and dealt with swiftly, but he could not disclose any punishment.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:16 PM   #31
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Oh, grow a pair for cripes sake.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:17 PM   #32
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Agreed.

I wouldn't have a problem if they referred to this person as "he" or "she", but "he/she" is intentionally dehumanizing. Nobody deserves that.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:30 PM   #33
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:34 PM   #34
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I support the radio hosts and if I owned espn I would have given them a promotion.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:37 PM   #35
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:43 PM   #36
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Questioning the competitiveness and sportsmanship of allowing her to play = fair game, worth discussing

Calling her "it" and "he/she" and whatever other epithets they used = not okay.
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Questioning the competitiveness and sportsmanship of allowing her to play = fair game, worth discussing

Calling her "it" and "he/she" and whatever other epithets they used = not okay.
He/she chose to cut his/her balls off. He/She made the choice. They should be able to say whatever the **** they want to. She needs to grow a pair back.
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He/she chose to cut his/her balls off. He/She made the choice. They should be able to say whatever the **** they want to. She needs to grow a pair back.
Totally, man. Because he (at the time) just woke up one day and decided to "chop his balls off". Like, "****, these things are gettin heavy. Maybe I'll try to be a woman for a while."
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:04 AM   #43
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Totally, man. Because he (at the time) just woke up one day and decided to "chop his balls off". Like, "****, these things are gettin heavy. Maybe I'll try to be a woman for a while."
I would imagine it was something more along the lines of always feeling like they are the other sex mentally and then finally deciding to change. (edit)

I will say this, if you do a thing like this, you better be somebody ready to handle the heat that comes from it. If they break down whenever they hear a thing said about them then what the hell were they thinking? That being said....

I am not a big P.C. person. To me my issue wouldn't be with PC but with not being consistent with your own standards. If you are somebody that calls anyone out and easily throws them in a harsh joke then this falls in the same boat. If you wouldn't call an ugly woman "it" on the radio then I don't think you should call this person "it" either. My moral line as a boss would be there. If we are a show where you can't make a person feel like less than a person, then this is off limits. If we are a show where all bets are always off, then whatever.

I just don't think that because this person decides they want to switch that it means we are morally off the hook for treating them different than we treat other people. Again, I don't see it as PC but more just being consistent. If you treat others with respect due to morals, then I think you should do the same in this case or I think you are contradicting yourself imho. Their choice to switch doesn't remove that moral obligation you had prior to the switch. If everyone is fair game to you, then fine, this is too.
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Questioning the competitiveness and sportsmanship of allowing her to play = fair game, worth discussing

Calling her "it" and "he/she" and whatever other epithets they used = not okay.
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