Chiefs Mellinger: The Chiefs Have Hit Rock Bottom - Page 7

FloridaMan88 · 10-28-2012, 09:36 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/28...ck-bottom.html

Chiefs have hit rock bottom

By Sam Mellinger

The Kansas City Star

The picture of the Chiefs’ now historical level of “professional” football incompetence is their overmatched head coach, asked a simple question about why his star running back only got five carries in another blowout loss, saying “I’m not exactly sure.”

The Chiefs are beyond disappointment, beyond even the kind of stink that makes your eyes water, and are now neck-deep in the all-time pool of pathetic with Matt Millen’s Lions, Turner Gill’s Jayhawks and Buddy Bell’s Royals.

Keep in mind, the Raiders stink, too. They won only two games this season before beating the Chiefs 26-16, a sort-of-close final score that makes it seem like the Chiefs had a chance.

Here’s coach Romeo Crennel’s explanation:

“Well, generally, if the other team is able to score, that puts you down,” he says. “… You can say this is similar to what we’ve been talking about all along. We get penalties at inopportune times, we turn the ball over, then we allow teams to score.”

These are your Chiefs, Kansas City. And with the next two games shown nationally in prime time, the rest of the country will see why you’ve been booing so much, and why it’s past time for the coach and general manager to be fired.

At some point, the team may just be bad enough for owner Clark Hunt to break his silence.

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A few weeks ago, Crennel put up a sign in the locker room that will ensure he never gets another head-coaching job. On it, he urged the team to “ELIMINATE BAD FOOTBALL.”

Just a humble suggestion here, but maybe the new sign should say: “OK, LET’S JUST ELIMINATE HISTORICALLY INEPT FOOTBALL AND THEN WE’LL WORRY ABOUT MERELY BAD FOOTBALL.”

You might’ve heard this stat by now, but it’s so amazing it should be repeated a million times and shouted from the rooftops and included in every story once Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli are canned for leading this mess: The Chiefs are the first team to go seven weeks without a lead in regulation since 1940.

Nineteen-forty.

Do you know what the NFL was in 1940? The Brooklyn Dodgers finished second in the NFL’s Eastern Division. The Pittsburgh Pirates renamed themselves the Steelers. Players had day jobs. Lamar Hunt turned 8 years old.

The men in charge of today’s NFL have taken great strides to make sure a team is never so unable to compete with other professional teams that it trails six of seven games by at least 17 points. That’s a staple of the NFL’s success, actually. The league is built on parity.

The Chiefs have become parody.

Think about this: The Royals haven’t played in 25 days, finished their season like dogs, and still have two wins since the Chiefs’ last victory.

The Chiefs have been a fireable offense for Crennel and Pioli, but now the team is bad enough that the men in charge might think about apologizing when they’re fired.

This is an all-time level of pathetic, bad enough that fans are paying to fly banners mocking the team over the stadium, and incompetent enough that fans are already wearing paper bags and plan on coming to the next game dressed in mourning. At least one fan wrote to the team demanding his tickets be refunded — and they were.

This is the team Pioli has spent four offseasons and four drafts building.

Much has been said — both on the record and off — about how bad the Chiefs were when Pioli was hired, and only some of it is exaggerated. They won two games the year before, and the coach Pioli hired famously told the players he inherited that he could win two games with 22 guys off the street. Well, the Chiefs still haven’t won two games this season with the presumed “Right 53” guys that Pioli has spent four years accumulating.

He has talked so much about changing the Chiefs’ losing culture, but really, he’s just updated it.

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Hunt hasn’t said a word publicly about any of this, which is being taken by some fans as a sign of detachment. That perception is understandable, but also wrong.

Hunt is listening to angry fans, responding to some personally, inviting a few to lunch … and at least one for a two-hour meeting in his office. He talked publicly during last year’s bye week. His silence now may be frustrating, but indications are that it’s purposeful.

A source distanced the team from a report of an extension for Pioli, remember, and if Hunt says anything publicly now, he’s going to be asked about his faith in Pioli. At the very least, that appears to be a question he’s not willing to answer at the moment.

Hunt hired and has supported Pioli. Nearly everybody thought it was the best hire the Chiefs could make at the time. Hunt wants to believe in Pioli. Hunt wants to build a franchise like the Steelers, the NFL’s model of consistency, and firing a GM after four seasons is a rotten way to do it.

But this team is pathetic enough he may not have a choice.

**Rausch** · 10-29-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Real question i have is who handles transactions if Pioli gets axed.

There should be none until we get a new GM.

htismaqe · 10-29-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Nick Wright suggested that Clark knows the two biggest problems and actions will be taken, just not soon enough.

TWO problems?

This right here demonstrates and inability to fully comprehend the situation.

RAC and Cassel are ONLY here because Pioli gave them jobs.

There's only ONE problem with this team.

The fact that he says "two" tells me we're all going to be VERY disappointed when the heads start to roll.

**Rausch** · 10-29-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The fact that he says "two" tells me we're all going to be VERY disappointed when the heads start to roll.

Pioli will be driving the bus over Romeo and Ca$$hole in February...

**The Franchise** · 10-29-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Pioli will be driving the bus over Romeo and Ca$$hole in February...

My vote is for Daboll and Cassel.

htismaqe · 10-29-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Pioli will be driving the bus over Romeo and Ca$$hole in February...

Yep.

TEX · 10-29-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

TWO problems?

This right here demonstrates and inability to fully comprehend the situation.

RAC and Cassel are ONLY here because Pioli gave them jobs.

There's only ONE problem with this team.

The fact that he says "two" tells me we're all going to be VERY disappointed when the heads start to roll.

Exactly.

htismaqe · 10-29-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

My vote is for Daboll and Cassel.

The defense has been horrible as well. Romeo won't be employed after Week 17.

TEX · 10-29-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I don't think the Chiefs will trade Bowe for anything less than a second rounder, or, for a third and an additional pick.

If they just let him walk they'll get a 3rd round compensatory pick, so why trade for something you're going to get from the league anyway?

I wouldn't trade him at all.

Marcellus · 10-29-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

TWO problems?

This right here demonstrates and inability to fully comprehend the situation.

RAC and Cassel are ONLY here because Pioli gave them jobs.

There's only ONE problem with this team.

The fact that he says "two" tells me we're all going to be VERY disappointed when the heads start to roll.

Why is everyone assuming Clark doesn't think Pioli is one of the 2 problems?

htismaqe · 10-29-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Why is everyone assuming Clark doesn't think Pioli is one of the 2 problems?

Who is #2 if Pioli is one of the problems?

RAC? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

Cassel? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

It's the subtlety of the English language. Since you could potentially solve EVERY problem this team has by getting rid of Pioli, you can effectively say the team only has ONE problem.

By suggesting the team has TWO problems, you're implicitly admitting that Pioli isn't the problem.

gold_and_red · 10-29-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who is #2 if Pioli is one of the problems?

RAC? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

Cassel? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

It's the subtlety of the English language. Since you could potentially solve EVERY problem this team has by getting rid of Pioli, you can effectively say the team only has ONE problem.

By suggesting the team has TWO problems, you're implicitly admitting that Pioli isn't the problem.

I think Clark realizes that he himself is the second problem.

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-29-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Peter King is suggesting the Seahawks should offer up a 4th for Bowe in his MMQB article today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...p&sct=hp_wr_a2

I still don't understand how you trade your best WR. Pay him. He'll be happy then. These guys aren't like old school players. All they care about is money #1, winning #2.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 10-29-2012, 02:15 PM

I'm sure it's been said but I have a feeling we'll be looking up at the situation today once we actually hit rock bottom.

Marcellus · 10-29-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who is #2 if Pioli is one of the problems?

RAC? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

Cassel? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

It's the subtlety of the English language. Since you could potentially solve EVERY problem this team has by getting rid of Pioli, you can effectively say the team only has ONE problem.

By suggesting the team has TWO problems, you're implicitly admitting that Pioli isn't the problem.

Well, another train of thought is he knows the 2 biggest problems are RAC and Cassel, and he knows who is responsible for both.

2 birds 1 stone.

Did he say he knows WHO the 2 biggest issues are or WHAT the 2 biggest issues are.

Not the same thing and I cant think of a scenario where Pioli isn't responsible for all the problems. Clark isn't dumb, he can see that.

Molitoth · 10-29-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who is #2 if Pioli is one of the problems?

RAC? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

Cassel? You solve that problem inherently if you fire Pioli.

It's the subtlety of the English language. Since you could potentially solve EVERY problem this team has by getting rid of Pioli, you can effectively say the team only has ONE problem.

By suggesting the team has TWO problems, you're implicitly admitting that Pioli isn't the problem.

Sorry dood, but Pioli is already extended. Clark is going to allow him to bring in another coach and draft a QB. It sucks, but it's going to happen.

10-28-2012, 09:36 PM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $1302906	Mellinger: The Chiefs Have Hit Rock Bottom http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/28...ck-bottom.html Chiefs have hit rock bottom By Sam Mellinger The Kansas City Star The picture of the Chiefs’ now historical level of “professional” football incompetence is their overmatched head coach, asked a simple question about why his star running back only got five carries in another blowout loss, saying “I’m not exactly sure.” The Chiefs are beyond disappointment, beyond even the kind of stink that makes your eyes water, and are now neck-deep in the all-time pool of pathetic with Matt Millen’s Lions, Turner Gill’s Jayhawks and Buddy Bell’s Royals. Keep in mind, the Raiders stink, too. They won only two games this season before beating the Chiefs 26-16, a sort-of-close final score that makes it seem like the Chiefs had a chance. Here’s coach Romeo Crennel’s explanation: “Well, generally, if the other team is able to score, that puts you down,” he says. “… You can say this is similar to what we’ve been talking about all along. We get penalties at inopportune times, we turn the ball over, then we allow teams to score.” These are your Chiefs, Kansas City. And with the next two games shown nationally in prime time, the rest of the country will see why you’ve been booing so much, and why it’s past time for the coach and general manager to be fired. At some point, the team may just be bad enough for owner Clark Hunt to break his silence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A few weeks ago, Crennel put up a sign in the locker room that will ensure he never gets another head-coaching job. On it, he urged the team to “ELIMINATE BAD FOOTBALL.” Just a humble suggestion here, but maybe the new sign should say: “OK, LET’S JUST ELIMINATE HISTORICALLY INEPT FOOTBALL AND THEN WE’LL WORRY ABOUT MERELY BAD FOOTBALL.” You might’ve heard this stat by now, but it’s so amazing it should be repeated a million times and shouted from the rooftops and included in every story once Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli are canned for leading this mess: The Chiefs are the first team to go seven weeks without a lead in regulation since 1940. Nineteen-forty. Do you know what the NFL was in 1940? The Brooklyn Dodgers finished second in the NFL’s Eastern Division. The Pittsburgh Pirates renamed themselves the Steelers. Players had day jobs. Lamar Hunt turned 8 years old. The men in charge of today’s NFL have taken great strides to make sure a team is never so unable to compete with other professional teams that it trails six of seven games by at least 17 points. That’s a staple of the NFL’s success, actually. The league is built on parity. The Chiefs have become parody. Think about this: The Royals haven’t played in 25 days, finished their season like dogs, and still have two wins since the Chiefs’ last victory. The Chiefs have been a fireable offense for Crennel and Pioli, but now the team is bad enough that the men in charge might think about apologizing when they’re fired. This is an all-time level of pathetic, bad enough that fans are paying to fly banners mocking the team over the stadium, and incompetent enough that fans are already wearing paper bags and plan on coming to the next game dressed in mourning. At least one fan wrote to the team demanding his tickets be refunded — and they were. This is the team Pioli has spent four offseasons and four drafts building. Much has been said — both on the record and off — about how bad the Chiefs were when Pioli was hired, and only some of it is exaggerated. They won two games the year before, and the coach Pioli hired famously told the players he inherited that he could win two games with 22 guys off the street. Well, the Chiefs still haven’t won two games this season with the presumed “Right 53” guys that Pioli has spent four years accumulating. He has talked so much about changing the Chiefs’ losing culture, but really, he’s just updated it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hunt hasn’t said a word publicly about any of this, which is being taken by some fans as a sign of detachment. That perception is understandable, but also wrong. Hunt is listening to angry fans, responding to some personally, inviting a few to lunch … and at least one for a two-hour meeting in his office. He talked publicly during last year’s bye week. His silence now may be frustrating, but indications are that it’s purposeful. A source distanced the team from a report of an extension for Pioli, remember, and if Hunt says anything publicly now, he’s going to be asked about his faith in Pioli. At the very least, that appears to be a question he’s not willing to answer at the moment. Hunt hired and has supported Pioli. Nearly everybody thought it was the best hire the Chiefs could make at the time. Hunt wants to believe in Pioli. Hunt wants to build a franchise like the Steelers, the NFL’s model of consistency, and firing a GM after four seasons is a rotten way to do it. But this team is pathetic enough he may not have a choice.
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