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Chiefs will never win big with Pioli in charge

By KENT BABB

The Kansas City Star

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Scott Pioli pushed his way through a doorway, into the Ralph Wilson Stadium tunnel and then, alone, disappeared into the Chiefs’ locker room.

As the team he built was enduring the final minutes of death-by-Ryan Fitzpatrick, an embarrassing 35-17 loss to the Buffalo Bills, the Chiefs’ general manager walked toward a few minutes of solitude. Days like this are lonely when you’re the king, and maybe he embraced what is obvious to so many others who saw Sunday’s loss: that another team he constructed looks lost and unprepared. No injuries and no excuses, no former head coach to blame, and no safety net below the Chiefs’ most powerful football man.

The Chiefs’ problems are with their coaches and players, but the bigger issue is about the man who brought in those coaches and players. Yes, this game and this season are on Pioli, and there’s no denying that anymore. And there’s no more denying another truth, whether you’re ready to read it or not: The Chiefs will never win big while Pioli is this team’s boss. His priorities are too misguided, his insecurities and denial too immense to allow Kansas City’s favorite team to win the Super Bowl that he was brought here to claim.

Pioli is now in his fourth year of trying to justify the hype that earned him accolades in New England, respect within the NFL, and a multi-million-dollar job as a GM. Expectations were unreachable, maybe, but Pioli has done himself no favors by obsessing over trivial details, spending too much time trying to feed his addition to his own reputation, and engineering a team using the “discount football” philosophy that has made the Hunt family richer but has gotten the Chiefs only marginally closer to a Super Bowl.

Days like Sunday should be behind the Chiefs. This roster is so much better than the one Pioli inherited in January 2009. He’s responsible for that, too. But how much better could it be if Pioli weren’t so consumed by off-the-field nonsense? He arrived nearly five years ago and promised to curb a culture of losing. Instead, Pioli now oversees an organization shadowed in a culture of misplaced priorities and anxiety — and, yes, more losing.

Now in his fourth season as GM, Pioli has spent too much time trying to justify his decisions, rather than trying to improve them.

He whines to outsiders that the Chiefs’ salary-cap shortcomings are misunderstood? Well, spend more money, as team chairman Clark Hunt has said Pioli is authorized to do. Pioli excuses himself for his biggest mistakes, such as saying he just didn’t do his homework before hiring former coach Todd Haley? Well, why not? And he says privately that drafting a quarterback in the early rounds isn’t the point; it’s about drafting the right one. Well, Scott, then draft the right one. These things are big parts of Pioli’s job, but instead of acknowledging that, he chooses to tell himself — and, through back channels, you — that things are just fine.

In Scott We Trust? Not anymore.

Pioli cares more than you can imagine about what others think; about how his gilded reputation still shines nearly five years after it landed him this job.

He calls opinion-makers in Kansas City to plead with them to share his side of the story in exchange for a nibble of access, and he spends his own time compiling ultimately meaningless statistics in an attempt to spin unpopular draft choices and questionable spending habits into a more favorable light. He hints to anyone who’ll listen — in exchange for agreeing that you didn’t hear it from him — that the Chiefs’ playoff run in 2010 and a brief winning streak last season weren’t a result of Haley’s coaching. Those, he is convinced, were results of the magic of former offensive coordinator Charlie Weis two seasons ago and, last year, the motivating skills of Romeo Crennel. He obsesses over public relations, attempting to manipulate the message large and small. Pioli is as responsible as anyone for the misconception that Haley ruined the Chiefs and that, by firing him last December, Pioli helped to save it. How does that narrative look after the Chiefs’ second consecutive blowout loss?

Pioli craves credit and validation on good days, and he wants to hide and blame others after days like Sunday.

He worries so much about trivial matters that it’s impossible to think that such an emphasis hasn’t been an obstacle to the Chiefs’ success. He was concerned enough about what cornerback Brandon Flowers might’ve thought if Pioli had signed Brandon Carr to a richer contract that this factored into his decision to let Carr leave Kansas City and sign with the Dallas Cowboys.

Win, and nobody cares about how many dollars the Chiefs are under the salary cap, or which coach was responsible for past success, or why a free agent was allowed to walk. Lose, and all anyone wants to talk about is going to war with your first head coach, a new and considerably less shiny reputation built on micromanagement and insecurity, and stubbornly sticking with quarterback Matt Cassel just because you drafted him in New England, traded for him in Kansas City, and signed him to an extension.

Pioli has, for years now, learned from far too many mistakes. Haley. Sticking with Cassel. Thinking he can control every ounce of information. A growing number of unimpressive draft classes. The way front-office employees are treated and how bizarrely secretive everyone is expected to be. Pioli wasn’t brought to Kansas City to learn from trial and error; he was hired because he was advertised as being smart enough to avoid learning things the hard way.

Crennel is now the Chiefs’ head coach, and few people inside or outside the organization after last season would’ve suggested that elevating Crennel would be a mistake. But after an 0-2 start in which the Chiefs’ defense — Crennel’s baby — has allowed 68 points and has no idea why, that hire now looks like another blunder.

Fair or not, Pioli’s job is to anticipate days like this, put aside emotion and past allegiance in New England and with the New York Giants, and hire a coach who can take on one of the NFL’s most talented rosters and avoid this kind of start. This is the tradeoff of cashing those big paychecks, of sitting in that sprawling office, and taking on the role of one of sports’ most powerful men.

Pioli is a very bright man. He has made the Hunts a mountain of money and built the Chiefs into a team that should begin each season as a trendy playoff choice, and those things are enough to keep him employed for the foreseeable future. He has a cushion of otherwise undeserved job security because of this and because the Chiefs believe you’ll keep filling Arrowhead Stadium, keep tuning in to disasters like the one broadcast in Kansas City on Sunday, and keep believing that better days are ahead.

Maybe they are, but assembling a team at a discount and prioritizing things that don’t really matter only builds a team with a limited ceiling. As long as Pioli is in that office, your expectations should have a low ceiling, too.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:45 AM   #301
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:46 AM   #302
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:51 AM   #303
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Romeo, the truest Patriot of them all, throwing wooden shoes, or "sabot" into the machine.

Hence the word, sabotage.

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Old 09-17-2012, 02:55 AM   #304
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I mean, he knows Pioli is watching. He has to be methodical and slick with the way he does it.

If I am Romeo and I want Cassel gone and know its gonna have to be REALLY BAD to get him out of there...this is EXACTLY what I would be doing to get rid of him.

EVERYONE knows Cassel isnt gonna lead a team from behind.

There is NO DOUBT that Romeos play calling was TOTALLY DIFFERENT after Cassel got hurt last year.

NONE.
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Romeo has a secret meeting with Clark Hunt.

Pioli is fired the next day.

Romeo named interim GM.

Quinn named starter.

Chiefs win 12 of next 14 games.

Lose in first round.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:15 AM   #306
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I just realized you actually lost our bet. Cassel's QB rating was 83.5. (It had to be 84.1)

So put this in your goddamn sig:

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Old 09-17-2012, 03:27 AM   #307
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Hence the word, sabotage.

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They don't win a playoff game in 20 years, and we still watch

They refuse to draft a first round QB, and we still watch

Not this time. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they have done!

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Old 09-17-2012, 06:41 AM   #308
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
Dude, stop. Romeo is a soft buffon that the game has passed by and that is the reason we're continually getting our shit pushed in.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:57 AM   #312
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
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it's not a possibility in the worst movie ever much less reality..
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***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.
I nominate this for the dumbest post in the history of the intrawebs...

Saddest part is BossChief and his CC cronies actually believe this shit...

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Old 09-17-2012, 07:53 AM   #315
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Do you think Poe, Jackson and Baldwin will be cut by the next regime?

Say Pioli is banned from Arrowhead for life after this season and we hire a new GM.

If we change the defensive scheme Tyson Jackson will probably be cut, especially with his contract.

Baldwin seems to be Charles Rogers pt 2 (not quick enough to get open against NFL CBs) and probably wasn't really all that talented to begin with.

Who knows what becomes of Poe, who was way over drafted and is clearly a major project a new GM might want no part of.

Berry will likely stay.

We might see the first-round picks of the Pioli era quite differently in a year or two.
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