New CP Fantasy Football League?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch

Kccrow welcome to 2002 you have found the perfect settings. In my leagues, and I remind you I am rated .05% of all yahoo players....lulz

Superflex for 2 qb playability. Thats the new level of fantasy football. THAT, my good friends, is how PMII gets drafted where he belongs. 1/1.

For a football website, lots of bellends around here.

I absolutely give zero ****s what your Yahoo rating is dude. I played again last year for the first time in 15 years. That's how much I give a **** about fantasy football. The last time I played, Steven Jackson was 1/1. We didn't give points for yards, much less partial yards, 4 points for a QB TD, and so forth that schmucks thought would make the game better. Some of it has, and most of it hasn't. Partial yards and points are reeruned. The guy either hits the milestone or he doesn't, simple shit really. Kind of like in the actual game where yo score or you don't. Nobody gives a **** if you pop off for 200 yards rushing if your team scores 10 points. Superflexes and 2 or 3 flexes? Stupid as ****. All it really does is change the rat race from one position to another. It used to be a rush to get all the best RBs. SF just makes it a rush to get the best QBs. It's made the game stupidly complicated for nothing. I finished last because my top players fist-****ed me with injuries. It happens. Oh well.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I absolutely give zero ****s what your Yahoo rating is dude. I played again last year for the first time in 15 years. That's how much I give a **** about fantasy football. The last time I played, Steven Jackson was 1/1. We didn't give points for yards, much less partial yards, 4 points for a QB TD, and so forth that schmucks thought would make the game better. Some of it has, and most of it hasn't. Partial yards and points are reeruned. The guy either hits the milestone or he doesn't, simple shit really. Kind of like in the actual game where yo score or you don't. Nobody gives a **** if you pop off for 200 yards rushing if your team scores 10 points. Superflexes and 2 or 3 flexes? Stupid as ****. All it really does is change the rat race from one position to another. It used to be a rush to get all the best RBs. SF just makes it a rush to get the best QBs. It's made the game stupidly complicated for nothing. I finished last because my top players fist-****ed me with injuries. It happens. Oh well.

Woof. There's a lot there that I don't get. I'll only unpack the 200 yards meaning nothing if the team doesn't score a bunch of points. In fantasy football, you don't care about the nfl team winning or not. You are looking for players from a bunch of different teams to play well individually... Yards are an important metric for determining a players value... in real life and in fantasy football.

[Kellerfox]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Woof. There's a lot there that I don't get. I'll only unpack the 200 yards meaning nothing if the team doesn't score a bunch of points. In fantasy football, you don't care about the nfl team winning or not. You are looking for players from a bunch of different teams to play well individually... Yards are an important metric for determining a players value... in real life and in fantasy football.

My interpretation of Crows post was that he doesn’t give a **** about Vlad’s antagonistic, pompous, and pretentious trolling. This league (and thread) was intended to be a casual and fun league for Chiefs fans / CP members. Fantasy is competitive by nature and trash talk is one of the best parts of it… but the fart smelling contest that Vlad is attempting to have is one Crow doesn’t wish to engage in (nor myself). Vlad can keep his farts to himself.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Originally Posted by Kellerfox

My interpretation of Crows post was that he doesn’t give a **** about Vlad’s antagonistic, pompous, and pretentious trolling. This league (and thread) was intended to be a casual and fun league for Chiefs fans / CP members. Fantasy is competitive by nature and trash talk is one of the best parts of it… but the fart smelling contest that Vlad is attempting to have is one Crow doesn’t wish to engage in (nor myself). Vlad can keep his farts to himself.

My farts and trolling got one guy into my league, yes? It's not even a cash league. We bet directly and settle on venmo, thats how the money gets involved.

So sorry for stealing your thunder cat guy. I never told anyone hey dont join his league, join mine! Many people play in multiple leagues at the same time.

Still 4 spots left if anyone else wants in. Come play me, kellerfox. Come get some, kccrow.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Woof. There's a lot there that I don't get. I'll only unpack the 200 yards meaning nothing if the team doesn't score a bunch of points. In fantasy football, you don't care about the nfl team winning or not. You are looking for players from a bunch of different teams to play well individually... Yards are an important metric for determining a players value... in real life and in fantasy football.

I ramble alot, mostly... but...

I like the yardage metric. I just prefer it to be tiered rather than yield partial points. For instance, every 10 yards rushing or receiving and every 20 passing, or similar. If you get 87 yards, you don't get 8.7 points, you get 8. I guess it's a thing I just like. I get why others do though. I just think it's a bit silly and overcomplicates and inflates the system. I also think that just because FF is more about player performance and putting the best roster together, it was also originally made to mimic a football sim. And, at one point, the scores were more reflective of that.

I do understand the reason the QB TD amount was almost universally changed from 3 points to 4 points. The league average over the past 10 years on NFL TD passes by team per game is 1.57. Multiply that by 4 and it's 6.28. So, about the same value as 1 TD per game from a receiver or back.

That said, it still doesn't actually "normalize" the position relative to other positions, which is what FF should (IMO) strive to do somewhat and why it's flawed. Most RBs, WRs, and TEs do not score a TD per game. Most score about 1 every other game. If the average QB were not to be any more valuable than any average RB or WR, then the TD pass should really be worth 2 points. Realistically, in just about all modern formats, the best QBs should be the first off the board because they provide the most points. A superflex, like Vlad mentioned, just makes it all the more valuable to have multiple good QBs.

I feel like the additional flex positions also emphasize the WR position over RB and TE a bit too much. It's hard to get 3 1000-yard/8 TD RBs no matter the size of the league but it's pretty easy to get 3 WRs. You're changing emphasis and upping the scoring even more. I think if you want to make it a bit more competitive, maybe you make it a 3 WR league and the flex is RB/TE instead of two flexes.

In the end, everything you do changes some dynamic of the league, and I think a good league tries to balance it out and make the owners go balanced or hedge their bets.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Originally Posted by kccrow

the best QBs should be the first off the board because they provide the most points. A superflex, like Vlad mentioned, just makes it all the more valuable to have multiple good QBs.

What is it we were even in disagreement about? Stay in the offical chiefs league by all means kccrow, but please reconsider my own league. I've commished for over 20 years, slowly, slowly finding the right settings. Every tiny setting in my league I can write 10 pages on why it's there. It's very well thought out.

If it's my arrogant attitude you object to, well friend, I'm not like that in real life at all. I'm actually kinda passive. Anyway, offer is there. It's free to play.