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Old 07-02-2019, 11:24 AM  
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Kaepernick has Nike pull American flag shoe.

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Old 07-05-2019, 10:38 PM   #226
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:06 PM   #227
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Which part, exactly, constitutes a “lie”?

You, relatively, rarely post in the lounge, and yet, when you do, you still have to be a dick. I should have anticipated as much, I suppose.
I JUST covered what. A dick is someone who posts a hot take without glancing at the thread first.

You just think I'm a dick because I don't let your passive-aggressive bullshit slide, particularly as it's about all you've done for nigh unto a decade and you still think it's clever.

Nobody's mad because they can't get a shoe they didn't know they might want.

To the extent they're mad, it's another step down the path, this time with a failed QB creating a narrative that something that was once, if not revered, at least respected is offensive and racist, and the social landscape kowtows without so much as blinking.

And you check out the graphic of the post after your tantrum, you might some of the reason this is so misguided factually. And if you want to listen, I'll lay out why it's so cancerous socially.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:10 PM   #228
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I JUST covered what. A dick is someone who posts a hot take without glancing at the thread first.

You just think I'm a dick because I don't let your passive-aggressive bullshit slide, particularly as it's about all you've done for nigh unto a decade and you still think it's clever.

Nobody's mad because they can't get a shoe they didn't know they might want.

To the extent they're mad, it's another step down the path, this time with a failed QB creating a narrative that something that was once, if not revered, at least respected is offensive and racist, and the social landscape kowtows without so much as blinking.

And you check out the graphic of the post after your tantrum, you might some of the reason this is so misguided factually. And if you want to listen, I'll lay out why it's so cancerous socially.
and you’ve yet to address how any of what I said was a lie. Perhaps you should give it another read and point out, precisely, what I said that constitutes a lie.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:16 PM   #229
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and you’ve yet to address how any of what I said was a lie. Perhaps you should give it another read and point out, precisely, what I said that constitutes a lie.
You are asserting that people are mad because Nike changed their mind about a product line they didn't even know about. . . That's not why. It's the why that's why.

The shoe is irrelevant. Nike is irrelevant. The source of anger is ill-informed malcontents fomenting outrage where it isn't merited.

This isn't going to end until everyone resents everyone else. Everyone.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:38 PM   #230
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You are asserting that people are mad because Nike changed their mind about a product line they didn't even know about. . . That's not why. It's the why that's why.

The shoe is irrelevant. Nike is irrelevant. The source of anger is ill-informed malcontents fomenting outrage where it isn't merited.

This isn't going to end until everyone resents everyone else. Everyone.
If Nike had simply produced and sold the shoes, the useful idiots would have still been equally as mad at Nike (and vocally so)?

The shoe is, clearly, relevant. Nike is, clearly, relevant. Both more so due to this bit of advertising (and the role of Useful Idiot).

I simply laid out what went down. You called that a lie due to some argument you're fighting in your head that I don't give a shit about. NONE of what I said wasn't true and you know that.
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If Nike had simply produced and sold the shoes, the useful idiots would have still been equally as mad at Nike (and vocally so)?

The shoe is, clearly, relevant. Nike is, clearly, relevant. Both more so due to this bit of advertising (and the role of Useful Idiot).

I simply laid out what went down. You called that a lie due to some argument you're fighting in your head that I don't give a shit about. NONE of what I said wasn't true and you know that.
Nike [and the shoe] is simply a vessel, an avatar for the social dynamic.

If Nike had held firm on releasing the shoe and the failed QB had pressed his case through other media/communication outlets, and the media coverage and presidential candidate approval of the notion of the white supremacy of Betsy Ross had played out similarly, people would still be 'mad' at the ill-informed fomenting of discord.

You're not interested in the 'argument I'm having in my head' because it accurately reflects the thought people are putting into their discontent and you prefer your narrative of the knee-jerk unthinking useful idiot who just hears that a shoe is pulled from the market and flies into a blind rage.
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Old 07-06-2019, 02:24 AM   #232
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You're not interested in the 'argument I'm having in my head' because it accurately reflects the thought people are putting into their discontent and you prefer your narrative of the knee-jerk unthinking useful idiot who just hears that a shoe is pulled from the market and flies into a blind rage.
For some odd reason, PG has been consumed about how he thinks others should feel about this.


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Old 07-06-2019, 07:25 AM   #234
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Nike stock up since latest Kaepernick controversy
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...k-controversy/

Controversy sells. It also boosts stock price.

Last September, Nike aligned with Colin Kaepernick. The naysayers predicted a cratering of the company’s stock price. And instead it went up.

Earlier this week, Kaepernick persuaded Nike to not proceed with a shoe that would have included the Betsy Ross flag, a symbol that is regarded by some as too strong of a link to America’s history of slavery. The naysayers once again predicted a cratering of the company’s stock prices. And, once again, it went up.

As noted by TMZ.com, Nike’s stock closed Friday at $86.62, a two-percent increase since Tuesday. The bump in stock price added $3 billion in value to the company.
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:28 PM   #235
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Nike, because of America's motivated liberal snowflakes who will embrace anything anti-America and anti-President Trump, are using the Kaep tool and laughing all the way to the bank.
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Nike stock up since latest Kaepernick controversy
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...k-controversy/

Controversy sells. It also boosts stock price.

Last September, Nike aligned with Colin Kaepernick. The naysayers predicted a cratering of the company’s stock price. And instead it went up.

Earlier this week, Kaepernick persuaded Nike to not proceed with a shoe that would have included the Betsy Ross flag, a symbol that is regarded by some as too strong of a link to America’s history of slavery. The naysayers once again predicted a cratering of the company’s stock prices. And, once again, it went up.

As noted by TMZ.com, Nike’s stock closed Friday at $86.62, a two-percent increase since Tuesday. The bump in stock price added $3 billion in value to the company.
Yes, that's why I said what I just quoted.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:21 AM   #236
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Nike stock up since latest Kaepernick controversy
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...k-controversy/

Controversy sells. It also boosts stock price.

Last September, Nike aligned with Colin Kaepernick. The naysayers predicted a cratering of the company’s stock price. And instead it went up.

Earlier this week, Kaepernick persuaded Nike to not proceed with a shoe that would have included the Betsy Ross flag, a symbol that is regarded by some as too strong of a link to America’s history of slavery. The naysayers once again predicted a cratering of the company’s stock prices. And, once again, it went up.

As noted by TMZ.com, Nike’s stock closed Friday at $86.62, a two-percent increase since Tuesday. The bump in stock price added $3 billion in value to the company.
so it's about money, like it's always been....

dumb ass consumer.
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so it's about money, like it's always been....

dumb ass consumer.
Sounds like you have an issue with marketing and capitalism. It's what every company tries to do. Create interest in their brand to increase valuation of their company. No reason to be offended by their legal business efforts.
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Sounds like you have an issue with marketing and capitalism. It's what every company tries to do. Create interest in their brand to increase valuation of their company. No reason to be offended by their legal business efforts.
No, I have a problem with excessive greed at the expense of Americans
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