Chiefs CB Breeland signing with the Chiefs - Page 21

**The Franchise** · 03-18-2019, 10:06 AM

Former Packers CB Bashaud Breeland is signing with the Chiefs, a source told ESPN
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 18, 2019

**Easy 6** · 03-18-2019, 04:05 PM

All sides are stumping atop their self righteous soapboxes lately

It's been a hoot, some things never change

htismaqe · 03-18-2019, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I said all this in the Spaq thread and got roasted. People were convinced that Houston/Ford could play in 4-3 and might be better fit.

I told them I worried about losing 2/3 of our best pass rusher in same offseason.

We've lost 2/3 of our best pass rushers in the same season more than once in the last 6 years. That's what injury-prone players do for a team.

O.city · 03-18-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

All sides are stumping atop their self righteous soapboxes lately

It's been a hoot, some things never change

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BleedingRed · 03-18-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We've lost 2/3 of our best pass rushers in the same season more than once in the last 6 years. That's what injury-prone players do for a team.

I'm trying to think of when............ Howard? When else?

ToxSocks · 03-18-2019, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The stats tell us that over a career, Breeland is the better player and if it wasn't for his injury and subsequent time spent out of football, he's the better player.

And what is that based off of? I would like to see what you're looking at. I'm not disagreeing with you, because frankly i don't know. I would like to see what you're using to compare them, to make that claim.

And the NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league anyhow.

I remember when Amerson was signed many posters clung to what he had done 3 years ago too, in hopes that, "Hey maybe he won't suck this time...".

Warrick · 03-18-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I'm not being negative. I am re-iterating what the stats tell us.

Yeah, stats from last year while Breeland was in a new system... Are we still having this conversation? I thought Iconic already put you in your place

O.city · 03-18-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I fully expect him to go front 7.

Pretty much the ONLY way he could **** up his first pick is to go OL.

S, CB, DL, LB....they need difference makers everywhere. There isn't a position group there that couldn't use a 1st round talent.

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Heres my thing though.

All completely hypothetical, ideal situation stuff.

The new scheme isn't like the old one where a guy has to rely on simply himself to be a difference maker. Meaning, guys are going to (again hopefully) be put in situations where they are allowed to be schemed up to be successful.

Pattern matching on the back end with a hybrid front could/should make guys look a lot better than they did in the Sutton scheme.

Mother****erJones · 03-18-2019, 04:10 PM

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He still looks like he plays stiffer than he tested to me.

I'm not a huge Greedy Williams fan either. I think I'm in a minority there and he timed better than I expected. Maybe it's just an optical illusion because he's a fairly big guy, but he doesn't move as fluidly as I like from a high-end CB.

Murphy's my favorite CB in the draft.

Murphy CB1 all the way. I even like Joejuan more than a Greedy and Baker

htismaqe · 03-18-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And what is that based off of? I would like to see what you're looking at. I'm not disagreeing with you, because frankly i don't know. I would like to see what you're using to compare them, to make that claim.

And the NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league anyhow.

I remember when Amerson was signed many posters clung to what he had done 3 years ago too, in hopes that, "Hey maybe he won't suck this time...".

Signing someone like Amerson to a throw-away deal like they did is EXACTLY the right move. It was never a bad move. If he returns to form, steal. If he doesn't, you cut him, just like they did.

The mistake was not also drafting a CB in the draft. If they do it again this year, they'll get the criticism they deserve from me but right now, there's not a CB on the market that would be good enough to warrant doing something different than what they're doing right now which is looking for bargain basement bridge players.

ToxSocks · 03-18-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick

Yeah, stats from last year while Breeland was in a new system... Are we still having this conversation? I thought Iconic already put you in your place

Can you give me some details on this new system? I already asked this and no one answered.

Was he asked to play more zone vs man? Because they both ran a 3-4. Do you have some sort of evidence that his assignments were so drastically different?

Or are you just going, "Hey, he was on a different team, so it was totally different!"?

Best22 · 03-18-2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I fully expect him to go front 7.

Pretty much the ONLY way he could **** up his first pick is to go OL.

S, CB, DL, LB....they need difference makers everywhere. There isn't a position group there that couldn't use a 1st round talent.

Drafting a QB would be a much worse decision than OL

MeatRock · 03-18-2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I fully expect him to go front 7.

Pretty much the ONLY way he could **** up his first pick is to go OL.

S, CB, DL, LB....they need difference makers everywhere. There isn't a position group there that couldn't use a 1st round talent.

It just that the corner position is so barren. Unless a huge trade happens our corner position looks ****ed pre-draft. No depth or big talent.

BleedingRed · 03-18-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Drafting a QB would be a much worse decision than OL

TBH what if Mahomes hits his girl, then who looks dumb.... our current trend doesn’t bode well

O.city · 03-18-2019, 04:13 PM

I would sign 2 or 3 more guys on the defensive side of the ball then draft heavy on that side.

Today's NFL and defense seems more about 11 good players and depth.

ToxSocks · 03-18-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Signing someone like Amerson to a throw-away deal like they did is EXACTLY the right move. It was never a bad move. If he returns to form, steal. If he doesn't, you cut him, just like they did.

The mistake was not also drafting a CB in the draft. If they do it again this year, they'll get the criticism they deserve from me but right now, there's not a CB on the market that would be good enough to warrant doing something different than what they're doing right now which is looking for bargain basement bridge players.

And again, for the billionth time, i'm not arguing against that. I'm not complaining about the signing. I'm just not going to convince myself that he's an upgrade over Nelson.

I'm stating that they aren't BETTER because of it.

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