Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 130

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

ToxSocks · 11-14-2018, 10:00 AM

Alright boys, today's the day!

Que up your favorite GIFs cuz it's happening.

**TribalElder** · 11-14-2018, 10:02 AM

hopefully he can make it back and play at a high level

those are 2 different things entirely

FloridaMan88 · 11-14-2018, 10:03 AM

Day 95 of "Day to Day".

GloryDayz · 11-14-2018, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

You can't cut him right now. There's no point really, you're paying him either way.

After the season, it's a different story.

"The point" would be to send a message that the Chiefs are a business. Remember, the other players are watching.

If he comes out and is honest with what's going on, really going on, I might change my position entirely, but so far what's being reported points the needle in the direction of a selfish player milking a contract for all it's worth.

And, again, I know he's not obligated to tell us anything, but we're not obligated to like him just because he's on our roster. Especially when we (yeah "we") showed him all the love in the world just a few years ago as he went through a very terrible illness.

We're just meeting his silence and candor with a voice. That's all.

carcosa · 11-14-2018, 10:51 AM

The nurses fixed him!!!!

School of Nursing students and faculty had a visitor - Eric Berry! �� pic.twitter.com/mgvTeo8qRF
— KU Medical Center (@KUMedCenter) November 7, 2018

**chiefforlife** · 11-14-2018, 11:13 AM

I cant help but check this thread every Wednesday, still hoping to hear he is finally practicing...

O.city · 11-14-2018, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

"The point" would be to send a message that the Chiefs are a business. Remember, the other players are watching.

If he comes out and is honest with what's going on, really going on, I might change my position entirely, but so far what's being reported points the needle in the direction of a selfish player milking a contract for all it's worth.

And, again, I know he's not obligated to tell us anything, but we're not obligated to like him just because he's on our roster. Especially when we (yeah "we") showed him all the love in the world just a few years ago as he went through a very terrible illness.

We're just meeting his silence and candor with a voice. That's all.

Is it good business to cut a guy you have to pay anyway with a chance he could actually play?

I have no idea whats going on. I know what I think is going on, but that doesn't really matter. The Chiefs have always been coy about injuries under Reid, this is no different.

The other players are watching. If you listen to them, they still talk pretty glowingly about Berry and once he's back and such. Plus he's the guy in the middle of the huddle pre game. Cutting him will send a message. Probably not the one you want, but that's a different subject.

Grim · 11-14-2018, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I cant help but check this thread every Wednesday, still hoping to hear he is finally practicing...

I check on his practice status through regular media.
I check here for the latest CP collective medical diagnoses and conspiracy theories!

saphojunkie · 11-14-2018, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

"The point" would be to send a message that the Chiefs are a business. Remember, the other players are watching.

If he comes out and is honest with what's going on, really going on, I might change my position entirely, but so far what's being reported points the needle in the direction of a selfish player milking a contract for all it's worth.

And, again, I know he's not obligated to tell us anything, but we're not obligated to like him just because he's on our roster. Especially when we (yeah "we") showed him all the love in the world just a few years ago as he went through a very terrible illness.

We're just meeting his silence and candor with a voice. That's all.

Shooting myself in the dick on Facebook live sends a message, too.

carcosa · 11-14-2018, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Shooting myself in the dick on Facebook live sends a message, too.

Link??

**loochy** · 11-14-2018, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Shooting myself in the dick on Facebook live sends a message, too.

BE SURE THAT YOUR VIDEO CAMERA HAS 12X ZOOM

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**Bugeater** · 11-14-2018, 11:55 AM

AND BE SURE TO TURN YOUR ****ING CAMERA SIDEWAYS

jjkrueg · 11-14-2018, 11:57 AM

Don’t think we’ll get our update today, isn’t everything pushed back a day due to game on Monday rather than Sunday?

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Buckweath · 11-14-2018, 12:01 PM

Berry better come with a vengeance and help the team win a SB or I won't like him very much.

There was a reason Dorsey didn't want to pay him all that money that he wanted and I never really liked how Berry wouldn't budge and here he is being useless.

**New World Order** · 11-14-2018, 12:06 PM

Where is SR?

Maybe he can message him on Facebook?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1616899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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