Chiefs Has our defense been HARSHLY judged?

Sassy Squatch · 09-21-2018, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Yes, but people are forgetting who we have had to face and what the defensive group has been through through preseason. How many other teams would come out with two wins?

Good grief. Stop making excuses for these sorry sacks of shit. Hopefully as this year goes along they get their collective heads out of their asses and actually play something resembling NFL ball, but we've won these 2 games riding the historic arm of Mahomes and his ability to get TDs.

UChieffyBugger · 09-21-2018, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Good grief. Stop making excuses for these sorry sacks of shit. Hopefully as this year goes along they get their collective heads out of their asses and actually play something resembling NFL ball, but we've won these 2 games riding the historic arm of Mahomes and his ability to get TDs.

SMH "excuses?" I've laid out the FACTS in black and white. But of course, many of you "the defense is crap" zombies don't want to hear the truth, you're just stuck on the same path you were on last year

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Best22 · 09-21-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Good grief. Stop making excuses for these sorry sacks of shit. Hopefully as this year goes along they get their collective heads out of their asses and actually play something resembling NFL ball, but we've won these 2 games riding the historic arm of Mahomes and his ability to get TDs.

It's been 2 weeks. Things will settle down. It's hard to call things "best" and "worst" after 2 weeks, especially since we haven't even faced an average QB yet, only top-flight ones

I mean, KC is averaging 40ppg, but I doubt that average continues throughout the year. I mean, statistically Mahomes is the best QB so far, but no one would rank him over Brady or Rodgers

Sassy Squatch · 09-21-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

It's been 2 weeks. Things will settle down. It's hard to call things "best" and "worst" after 2 weeks, especially since we haven't even faced an average QB yet, only top-flight ones

I mean, KC is averaging 40ppg, but I doubt that average continues throughout the year

Cool. "They've statistically been so awful that there's no way it continues for the whole year" isn't anything to be happy about. They need to get their shit together now, or we're going to start losing games when Mahomes comes back down from outer space.

Best22 · 09-21-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Cool. "They've statistically been so awful that there's no way it continues for the whole year" isn't anything to be happy about. They need to get their shit together now, or we're going to start losing games when Mahomes comes back down from outer space.

There are only a handful of teams with defenses good enough to stop us and offenses good enough to put up 35+ on us.

This also assumes that Berry doesn't return. Replacing Murray with Berry probably shaves off a touchdown per game

The defense will never be good this year, but it can be better, and will if Berry and Sorensen return.

How many defenses would be good if they lost both starting safeties at the start of the season and had to face Big Ben and Rivers on the road? Most fans would be calling for 0-2, yet here we are, 2-0

Sassy Squatch · 09-21-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

There are only a handful of teams with defenses good enough to stop us and offenses good enough to put up 35+ on us.

This also assumes that Berry doesn't return. Replacing Murray with Berry probably shaves off a touchdown per game

The defense will never be good this year, but it can be better, and will if Berry and Sorensen return.

How many defenses would be good if they lost both starting safeties at the start of the season and had to face Big Ben and Rivers on the road? Most fans would be calling for 0-2, yet here we are, 2-0

At this point I'm not looking for "good". I'd be content with not dead ****ing last by most metrics.

Best22 · 09-21-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

At this point I'm not looking for "good". I'd be content with not dead ****ing last by most metrics.

I mean, we played 2 top offenses from 2017. That'll hurt your rankings

I don't really know what you expect. No fan expected the defense to shutdown Rivers and Roethlisberger. Many fans (after the Bears game) expected LA to drop a 50 burger. Few media pundits expected us to even have a win after 2 weeks

Getting Berry and Sorensen back, and playing fewer talent-laden offenses, should certainly help our overall statistics for the season

Sassy Squatch · 09-21-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

I mean, we played 2 top offenses from 2017. That'll hurt your rankings

I don't really know what you expect. No fan expected the defense to shutdown Rivers and Roethlisberger. Many fans (after the Bears game) expected LA to drop a 50 burger. Few media pundits expected us to even have a win after 2 weeks

Getting Berry and Sorensen back, and playing fewer talent-laden offenses, should certainly help our overall statistics for the season

Yay. So if we run into a high powered offense in the playoffs we're ****ed unless either Berry or Sorenson come back and make a big difference or Mahomes is still playing at an unsustainable rate. Yippee.

UChieffyBugger · 09-21-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Cool. "They've statistically been so awful that there's no way it continues for the whole year" isn't anything to be happy about. They need to get their shit together now, or we're going to start losing games when Mahomes comes back down from outer space.

These were the points the Pats conceded In their first four games last season

42= vs Chiefs
20= vs Saints
33= vs Houston
33= Panthers

And everyone was saying it's a "historically bad" defense. But from that Panthers gone onwards, they became one of the top defensive units in the league which took them to the superbowl. So there is a clear example of how things can turn around quickly.

FloridaMan88 · 09-21-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

These were the points the Pats conceded In their first four games last season

42= vs Chiefs
20= vs Saints
33= vs Houston
33= Panthers

And everyone was saying it's a "historically bad" defense. But from that Panthers gone onwards, they became one of the top defensive units in the league which took them to the superbowl. So there is a clear example of how things can turn around quickly.

You are referring to the same 2017 Patriots defense that gave up 500+ yards and 40+ points in the Super Bowl to an opposing offense led by a back-up QB?

UChieffyBugger · 09-21-2018, 07:01 PM

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You are referring to the same 2017 Patriots defense that gave up 500+ yards and 40+ points in the Super Bowl to an opposing offense led by a back-up QB?

So everything they did until that point didn't matter?

Didn't Philly give up a ton of points too? Is their defense bad aswell?