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Old 08-12-2018, 10:58 AM  
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Another Intense Police Shootout
2017- Just released after the suspect was convicted of 2 counts of attempted murder. Trooper Ryan Seiple made a traffic stop on the suspect for speeding at 82 MPH, then initiated a sobriety check. Corporal Seth Kelly was shot 4 times and was clinically dead, before being brought back to life at the hospital.

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Prosecutors said the video depicted the two troopers acting professionally and with restraint during a speeding stop Nov. 7 that unexpectedly turned violent. Defense attorney Janet Jackson unsuccessfully argued self-defense, describing Clary as a scared young man who was getting his first speeding ticket, then was surprised when police moved to handcuff him.

The video showed Seiple hand Clary a ticket and begin to drive away, before the motorist motioned for him to come back. As he talked more with Clary, Seiple became suspicious of whether he was driving impaired, leading to field sobriety tests and Kelly’s arrival at the scene on the side of the highway.

It was when troopers tried to arrest Clary on suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana that chaos erupted.

A melee between Clary and the troopers lasted one minute and six seconds. The gun battle that followed, just 41 seconds.

Before he ran to his car, grabbed a gun and opened fire, Clary and the troopers grappled on the ground, Clary trying to grab their service handguns and continuing to struggle even after he was repeatedly shocked with stun guns.

The video showed Clary grabbing the handle of Kelly’s holstered gun early in the struggle, before the troopers used their Tasers or punched him.

Clary tried to grab both troopers’ pistols, and succeeded in dislodging the ammunition magazine of Seiple’s. A spare firearm of Kelly’s fell to the ground at one point, which Seiple later picked up, disarmed and threw to the side.

Seiple used his Taser on Clary twice and punched him five times, according to trial testimony. Kelly tasered Clary five times, threw nine punches and kneed him once.

According to a state police expert who examined the video frame-by-frame, Clary and Seiple shot at each other simultaneously, as Clary pointed a handgun at police.

Clary fired all six of his gun’s bullets, Kelly fired 21 rounds and Seiple fired 20 rounds.

Clary, 22, of Chestnuthill Township, was wounded in the gunfight, driving himself to Easton Hospital with injuries that included a bullet lodged in his head.

Clary could face decades in prison when he is sentenced Aug. 31 by Baratta.
http://www.mcall.com/news/police/mc-...706-story.html
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:56 PM   #76
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Still. Not good numbers.

Think of how many innocent people driving by they could have killed.

That's a terrible position to be in. You have to shoot though.

Damn
While I don't necessarily disagree, if you watch the video I don't believe any vehicle traffic passes after the semi (during the height of gunfire).
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:57 PM   #77
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While I don't necessarily disagree, if you watch the video I don't believe any vehicle traffic passes after the semi (during the height of gunfire).
They had no way of knowing that. Dumb luck if so.
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Old 08-12-2018, 09:00 PM   #78
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While they don't specifically say I'm fairly certain they landed more than one. The article just mentioned he has one round in his head.

And he wasn't drunk he was high on marijuana
I don't buy that....

Did they mention the toxicology report results anywhere? It says under the suspicion of...

He looks absolutely shit faced....can barely stand

Unless he is a first time smoker who just blazed before they pulled him over it is highly unlikely that was the only substance in his system. No pun intended.
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Tased 7 times punched 14 kneed once.

Landed 5 of 6 shots.

Officers connected on one of 41.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
I'm thinking he had his arms up by his head so the punching is pretty inconsequential. Besides that, it didn't look like he was delivering a lot of power through the punches. The tazing looked like it hurt more than what the cops did physically.

You're right on the gunshot numbers. But I'm sure there was a lot of "WTF WTF WTF" by the cops, you can see it in their body language. Which is understandable. Dude took a lot of voltage and fought off 2 guys at some point it has to be surreal. I mean, you saw Branden Albert after he got tazed. Looked like he got worked.

I believe the numbers though. Look at the perps movements once he picks up the gun compared to the cops. He is much more composed than the cops.
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Old 08-12-2018, 09:59 PM   #81
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They had no way of knowing that. Dumb luck if so.
I agree, but I totally don't blame them for dumping rounds. Dude was trying hard to kill the **** out of them.
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ah, thanks.

I also think that LEO can't help but be cautious, in trying to do things by the book and not be aggressive, and sometimes that can't bite them in the behind.

It's easy to talk about it after the fact, but dang, things are moving so quickly...

Sobering.
Agreed. Quite the world we live in these days.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:29 PM   #83
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Tased 7 times punched 14 kneed once.

Landed 5 of 6 shots.

Officers connected on one of 41.

I just can't wrap my head around that.
Shooting first is infinitely easier than shooting second.

Like fighting, if you land the first unexpected punch, the opponent will look incompetent as he's bring pummeled, while you're hitting every time.

Plus, by the time the cops had a chance to return fire, the perp had already taken cover, and it appears that the officer's shots were not being taken at an exposed, seen threat; rather, an assumed one (shots all hit around the driver seat area). Meanwhile, all the perp's shots were taken at an exposed target caught by surprise.
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I'm thinking he had his arms up by his head so the punching is pretty inconsequential. Besides that, it didn't look like he was delivering a lot of power through the punches. The tazing looked like it hurt more than what the cops did physically.

You're right on the gunshot numbers. But I'm sure there was a lot of "WTF WTF WTF" by the cops, you can see it in their body language. Which is understandable. Dude took a lot of voltage and fought off 2 guys at some point it has to be surreal. I mean, you saw Branden Albert after he got tazed. Looked like he got worked.

I believe the numbers though. Look at the perps movements once he picks up the gun compared to the cops. He is much more composed than the cops.
That stood out to me.
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Shooting first is infinitely easier than shooting second.

Like fighting, if you land the first unexpected punch, the opponent will look incompetent as he's bring pummeled, while you're hitting every time.

Plus, by the time the cops had a chance to return fire, the perp had already taken cover, and it appears that the officer's shots were not being taken at an exposed, seen threat; rather, an assumed one (shots all hit around the driver seat area). Meanwhile, all the perp's shots were taken at an exposed target caught by surprise.
pretty sure it said that one officer and the perp both fired their first shots at he same time...
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That stood out to me.
Reading my post again, I feel like I should clarify. I didn’t intend it to be an indictment of the cops, just the observation.

The cops obviously have more care for the taking of life and are far less comfortable doing it. And I can’t sit here and say “**** him. Bow up and kill the ****.” I want my cops to not feel no anxiety taking a life.
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It's a fine line between subduing someone who is non-compliant and violating the civil rights of a minority in 2018.

You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop.

Those guys are in a no-win situation.
That's my EXACT thoughts. A thankless job in 2018 where you risk your life everyday.
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When that dude leaned back in the car they should have unloaded on him.

Wow.

And you have to laugh at the moron who cant make a pork butt without burning down his shitty apartment talking shit on anyone.
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