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Old 04-16-2018, 02:54 PM  
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Daniel Jeremiah: Many expect Chiefs to trade up for a CB
Not real surprising, but from here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...oking-to-trade

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Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:24 PM   #391
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No one in their right mind is trading for Justin Houston and his cap number. Not to mention you’re not getting shit for him. Nah, I’ll keep him and let him get 10+ sacks this season and be just fine. Picking your spots is completely different than being negligent and trading Tyreek Hill. That’s not a scenario, that’s silly.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:42 PM   #392
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We desperately need a corner guys. I like Amerson, but not as a full time starter. He’s a great backup who can be a number 3 corner if needed.

Either way, I’m still thinking we should trade down in rd 3, whether trade one of them or keep both. Just do it and get another pick in rd 4 or 5.

This draft is so deep that you can find your #2 TE, Fulton replacement, DL depth, safety, more corner depth all in the mid rounds.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:54 PM   #393
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We desperately need a corner guys. I like Amerson, but not as a full time starter. He’s a great backup who can be a number 3 corner if needed.

Either way, I’m still thinking we should trade down in rd 3, whether trade one of them or keep both. Just do it and get another pick in rd 4 or 5.

This draft is so deep that you can find your #2 TE, Fulton replacement, DL depth, safety, more corner depth all in the mid rounds.
Agreed, but I think the Chiefs need to get to pick 36/37 in order to get a legit starter at CB. Who that is remains to be seen, but outside the top 5 or 6 guys, you are then in another tier, where you have nickel/slot specialists or #3 type contributors. I’d hate to lose multiple picks in these mid rounds as you say because their is great depth to be had.

Hoping for one of Oliver/J. Jackson/Hughes. I don’t mind Davis, but he is a bit more limited in his skill set.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:55 PM   #394
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We desperately need a corner guys. I like Amerson, but not as a full time starter. He’s a great backup who can be a number 3 corner if needed.


How much are you willing to give up to get to the top of the second round?
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:02 PM   #395
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How much are you willing to give up to get to the top of the second round?
2nd, 3rd and 6th.

Then trade down with our other rd 3 pick so we can pick up a 4th/5th.
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So the plan is to keep mortgaging next year in the name of a rookie contract at QB?

That doesn't seem short-sighted at all.
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This draft is so deep that you can find your #2 TE, Fulton replacement, DL depth, safety, more corner depth all in the mid rounds.
This draft is shaping up to be a depth filler...Veach should keep his 2nd day picks and round out the roster. He already got his 2018 stars in Mahomes/Watkins/Fuller.
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Trade who? What?
according to Nick Athan, Eric Fisher.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:37 PM   #399
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Damn right, you took it at the totality that what I would do.

I'm bringing up possible scenarios because of Veach's aggressive nature.
He hasn't had a single draft yet to judge his "nature."

There is 0 information to judge his draft strategy on...
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He hasn't had a single draft yet to judge his "nature."

There is 0 information to judge his draft strategy on...
exactly, we are in the dark just spitballing varied options that are halfway crazy since we don't truly know how aggressive he is, and his long term model for draft seasons.
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I’d say identify the guys you have in group a at cb in this draft and once it gets down to 2 of that group left, move up.

Let’s go get a guy that can help match up against top level nfl WRs.

The kind of WRs they have in Pittsburgh, Houston and other AFC playoff teams.

That’s all that should matter to anyone here.

Those playoff matchups.
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exactly, we are in the dark just spitballing varied options that are halfway crazy since we don't truly know how aggressive he is, and his long term model for draft seasons.
He was only promoted after the draft and he had very little he could do to improve the team his way. All that left him with was a preseason of FA's, some trades during the season, and the FA period up to this point.

Veach might be conservative in the draft - we don't know.

What we do know is if he disagreed in how Dorsey was doing things last year he had very few options in how he could make changes. This offseason he's got everything open to him...
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what's the consensus around CP? Are most wanting to trade up, no, yes...? Stay where we are?

I'm not sure how I feel (the more I think about it) I think I'm leaning toward staying where we are.

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I’d say identify the guys you have in group a at cb in this draft and once it gets down to 2 of that group left, move up.

Let’s go get a guy that can help match up against top level nfl WRs.

The kind of WRs they have in Pittsburgh, Houston and other AFC playoff teams.

That’s all that should matter to anyone here.

Those playoff matchups.
It's a lot easier to land one more quality pass rusher than it is to land two more CB's and a SS to solidify the secondary.

You don't need stellar corners if you have a legit pass rush (meaning more than Houston alone.)
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I said it before - I'll say it again - don't underestimate the additions of Fuller and Hitchens - Even factoring in MPs departure.
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