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Old 01-13-2018, 09:25 AM   #1
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The new editor appears to be wanting to curb the heavy handed SJW nonsense. The only "diversity" push I thought was a good idea was the Cho/Hulk change.
Why do you keep posting about politics in super hero movie threads? I understand your a Trump supporter and have a right to your opinion, but posting your political views in every super hero movie thread? Why?
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:40 AM   #2
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Why do you keep posting about politics in super hero movie threads? I understand your a Trump supporter and have a right to your opinion, but posting your political views in every super hero movie thread? Why?
I could point out the clear direction Marvel Comics has taken but if you currently read and don't see it I doubt it would do much good.

For a better example look at Cho during the World War Hulk storyline. Not only is he the the Hulk's last defender (and even challenges the Hulk to a fight) but proves his point. The Hulk basically admits Cho's right while proving Cho's theory wrong. This is great writing. Cho never intended to take down the Hulk he wanted Hulk/Banner to see what they were doing and stop.

If you compare this to Cho/Hulk's fight with the Black Panther or how he's written in Champions he's now an ignorant teen who responds and doesn't plan/think ahead.

It's a huge disservice to Cho's character and an example of bad writing...
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I could point out the clear direction Marvel Comics has taken but if you currently read and don't see it I doubt it would do much good.

For a better example look at Cho during the World War Hulk storyline. Not only is he the the Hulk's last defender (and even challenges the Hulk to a fight) but proves his point. The Hulk basically admits Cho's right while proving Cho's theory wrong. This is great writing. Cho never intended to take down the Hulk he wanted Hulk/Banner to see what they were doing and stop.

If you compare this to Cho/Hulk's fight with the Black Panther or how he's written in Champions he's now an ignorant teen who responds and doesn't plan/think ahead.

It's a huge disservice to Cho's character and an example of bad writing...
To be fair, that's just an example of Marvel ****ing up a character, not a SJW thing.

Also I think it's less of a political agenda, and more of a poorly thought out attempt to sell comics to young people. When sales tanked the higher-ups at Marvel quickly pointed the finger at the diversity initiative and at this point have rolled most of it back. If it was some kind of political stand they would have made more of an attempt to stand by it, or at least found another scapegoat.

That said, I don't believe diversity in-and-of-itself tanked sales, it was (as your example shows) that the comics were mostly not good. By and large people won't read shitty comics just because of politics, and won't reject good comics because of it either. If Falcon-Cap was as good of a story as Bucky-Cap it would have sold.
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To be fair, that's just an example of Marvel ****ing up a character, not a SJW thing.
It's Marvel/Disney pushing an SJW thing which results in bad writing.

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Also I think it's less of a political agenda, and more of a poorly thought out attempt to sell comics to young people.
If that's the case you aren't paying attention or don't actually read comix.

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When sales tanked the higher-ups at Marvel quickly pointed the finger at the diversity initiative and at this point have rolled most of it back.
They pushed the "SJW" (not leftist ideas but FULL SJW propaganda) for 6 ****ING YEARS!

I'll start another topic on this issue and not derail this one but YES, I do have digital (**** me for paying for this garbage) issues we can argue on later.
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To be fair, that's just an example of Marvel ****ing up a character, not a SJW thing.
What do you know about Cho as a character?
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Why do you keep posting about politics in super hero movie threads? I understand your a Trump supporter and have a right to your opinion, but posting your political views in every super hero movie thread? Why?
Let it be noted that you're the one that invoked Trump's name and politics in here, not Rausch. And he brought it up because Marvel was on a HUGE SJW tear with their storylines, just as I mentioned. Females had taken on the Thor, Spider-Man, Captain America, and Wolverine characters, and that's just off the top of my head.

Rausch isn't "posting his political views" in here, he's commenting on how Marvel got uber-political with their comic book product and how it mostly backfired on them.
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Let it be noted that you're the one that invoked Trump's name and politics in here, not Rausch. And he brought it up because Marvel was on a HUGE SJW tear with their storylines, just as I mentioned. Females had taken on the Thor, Spider-Man, Captain America, and Wolverine characters, and that's just off the top of my head.

Rausch isn't "posting his political views" in here, he's commenting on how Marvel got uber-political with their comic book product and how it mostly backfired on them.
And let it be noted I did agree with one of the "diversity moves" because I thought it would help to infuse life into a character everyone want's to bland down.

And, I love the Cho character and hate what Marvel has done to him...
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Let it be noted that you're the one that invoked Trump's name and politics in here, not Rausch. And he brought it up because Marvel was on a HUGE SJW tear with their storylines, just as I mentioned. Females had taken on the Thor, Spider-Man, Captain America, and Wolverine characters, and that's just off the top of my head.

Rausch isn't "posting his political views" in here, he's commenting on how Marvel got uber-political with their comic book product and how it mostly backfired on them.
I've been and still consider myself a friend of Rausch. Just like Frazod. Just because they like Trump hasn't changed that l consider them friends. Because of that, l said something. It wasn't a challenge or something l think violated TOS. If it was Pete or PB, I'm sure l wouldn't have said anything.
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I've been and still consider myself a friend of Rausch. Just like Frazod. Just because they like Trump hasn't changed that l consider them friends. Because of that, l said something. It wasn't a challenge or something l think violated TOS. If it was Pete or PB, I'm sure l wouldn't have said anything.
I don't have any problem with it.

And I don't care if you love or hate Trump. The point is that Marvel made a point of taking Cap, crapping on his character by making him a literal Nazi, and then creating a story that directly compares NaziCap to Trump.

People don't actually believe how bad Marvel has gotten and assume I'm just reading into things because of my beliefs. Uh, no.

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