NFL Draft Rosen is considering pulling an Eli if the Browns want him - Page 3

Quesadilla Joe · 11:35 AM

If Darnold pulls the same thing the #1 pick could be up for grabs...

Josh Rosen prefers Giants over Browns, would hesitate to enter draft if Cleveland commits to him

Spoiler!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/st...nd-commits-him

Dorsey is in a tough spot. I don't think Smith would be an option for him because I doubt Dorsey or KC would want to do a deal with each other, and Smith probably won't want to go to Cleveland either.

His only option could be giving Cousins $100M guaranteed or something.

Hoopsdoc · 12-24-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Imagine you just graduated from college and businesses draft you. The worst business in the ****ing world wants to draft you and you are going to be locked in with them for no less than 5 years, all but guaranteeing your failure.

Wouldn't you do everything possible to avoid it?

It does suck for the players but the millions help.

Plus, there has to be some sort of system in place for parity. Otherwise, ol Jerruh would just buy all the best players every year.

NWTF · 12-24-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Real talk though, with the way Hue Jackson has treated Deshone Kizer, I wouldn't blame any QB for turning their nose up at Cleveland.

I think Jackson is going put everything hes got into sliding into Marvin Lewis's spot in Cincy. I think he will be willing to take less, which in Cincy will put you on the short list. IMO he will emerge the front runner for that job.

Besides that, if you saw the responses over the McCarron fiasco you saw he wants out of Cleveland.

**notorious** · 12-24-2017, 01:35 PM

The amount of money involved is irrelevant.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-24-2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF

I think Jackson is going put everything hes got into sliding into Marvin Lewis's spot in Cincy. I think he will be willing to take less, which in Cincy will put you on the short list. IMO he will emerge the front runner for that job.

Besides that, if you saw the responses over the McCarron fiasco you saw he wants out of Cleveland.

It's a win win. Cincy gets their marvin lewis, Cleveland gets rid of hue. And yes, the fact that cincy wants another marvin lewis is hilarious.

TomBarndtsTwin · 12-24-2017, 01:45 PM

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Rosen is considering pulling an Elway if the Browns want him

FYTT

Infidel Goat · 12-24-2017, 03:28 PM

The NFL should do what MLB has done. If a team can't sign a first round pick for the slotted amount then they get roughly the same pick in the next years draft (actually one spot later than that pick).

I don't consider Rosen's decision nearly as bad as either Elway or Manning because he actually has a year of eligibility remaining. IIRC, Elway and Manning had graduated and were simply not going to sign. They've always been two of my least favorite players for that reason.

If the NFL instituted the MLB rule it would take away the power of future Elways/Mannings...

Graystoke · 12-24-2017, 03:35 PM

I predict Browns are going to get good real fast

BryanBusby · 12-24-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF

I think Jackson is going put everything hes got into sliding into Marvin Lewis's spot in Cincy. I think he will be willing to take less, which in Cincy will put you on the short list. IMO he will emerge the front runner for that job.

Besides that, if you saw the responses over the McCarron fiasco you saw he wants out of Cleveland.

The Bengals will have their eyes set elsewhere.

TEX · 12-24-2017, 03:59 PM

Before there was an Eli, there was an Elway...

BryanBusby · 12-24-2017, 04:21 PM

The Browns are looking at having around 120 mil in cap space next year.

They need to pass on ruining another young QB and give Kirk Cousins a deal that Washington has no chance to match. Front load that shit like 60 mil up front in year one and he's theirs.

Trade that #1 pick for a future mega haul and draft the **** out of some talent. Bam, they are back.

Discuss Thrower · 12-24-2017, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat

The NFL should do what MLB has done. If a team can't sign a first round pick for the slotted amount then they get roughly the same pick in the next years draft (actually one spot later than that pick).

I don't consider Rosen's decision nearly as bad as either Elway or Manning because he actually has a year of eligibility remaining. IIRC, Elway and Manning had graduated and were simply not going to sign. They've always been two of my least favorite players for that reason.

If the NFL instituted the MLB rule it would take away the power of future Elways/Mannings...

Or the nfl can institute the SNR Protocol and not have one year tank jobs being guaranteed the top pick in any given year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-24-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel Goat

The NFL should do what MLB has done. If a team can't sign a first round pick for the slotted amount then they get roughly the same pick in the next years draft (actually one spot later than that pick).

I don't consider Rosen's decision nearly as bad as either Elway or Manning because he actually has a year of eligibility remaining. IIRC, Elway and Manning had graduated and were simply not going to sign. They've always been two of my least favorite players for that reason.

If the NFL instituted the MLB rule it would take away the power of future Elways/Mannings...

chiefzilla1501 · 12-24-2017, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

The Browns are looking at having around 120 mil in cap space next year.

They need to pass on ruining another young QB and give Kirk Cousins a deal that Washington has no chance to match. Front load that shit like 60 mil up front in year one and he's theirs.

Trade that #1 pick for a future mega haul and draft the **** out of some talent. Bam, they are back.

I disagree. They're sitting on a #1 and #4 pick. If I'm the browns, I'd roll with Alex Smith and develop the hell out of your first round qb. They've passed up on too many franchise draft picks to do it again.

Infidel Goat · 12-24-2017, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Or the nfl can institute the SNR Protocol and not have one year tank jobs being guaranteed the top pick in any given year.

That's fine. Use the NBA draft lottery as well. I'm sold.

Infidel Goat · 12-24-2017, 06:59 PM

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3878675	Rosen is considering pulling an Eli if the Browns want him If Darnold pulls the same thing the #1 pick could be up for grabs... Josh Rosen prefers Giants over Browns, would hesitate to enter draft if Cleveland commits to him Spoiler! UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen would prefer to play for the Giants over the Browns and would be hesitant to come out in next year's NFL draft if he knew that Cleveland was going to take him with the No. 1 overall pick, according to league sources familiar with the situation. This is hardly the first time that a player has expressed concern about landing in Cleveland, though that will not dissuade new Browns general manager John Dorsey from taking the player he believes is the best fit for his franchise. Privately, Rosen has expressed concern about winding up in Cleveland and would rather be with a more stable franchise, such as the Giants. Rosen plans to sit down with his parents after the Cactus Bowl for a "serious conversation" before making a final decision about whether to turn pro. Whether Cleveland has the No. 1 overall pick could influence his decision, according to a source. The Browns (0-14) can secure the top overall pick Sunday with a loss to the Chicago Bears or a victory by the Giants (2-12) over the Arizona Cardinals. New York would clinch no worse than the No. 2 pick with losses in each of its last two games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/st...nd-commits-him Dorsey is in a tough spot. I don't think Smith would be an option for him because I doubt Dorsey or KC would want to do a deal with each other, and Smith probably won't want to go to Cleveland either. His only option could be giving Cousins $100M guaranteed or something. Last edited by Quesadilla Joe; 12-24-2017 at 11:35 AM..
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