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Old 12-20-2017, 12:00 AM  
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Are we alone here on Earth in the TRIlLION's of universes?

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Old 12-20-2017, 03:36 PM   #46
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essentially the answer is YES

because:

either:

1) we actually are alone, because of 'the great filter'

2) we arent alone but the distance is so vast that even with ultimate technology it really isnt feasible to travel to other galaxies or universes

3) again, because of a different aspect of 'the great filter'...there are other civilizations out there but they all go extinct before they develop the technology needed to travel such great distances

or

4) they ARE here but for some reason they harness this great energy and resource (black holes) and expend a universe of energy and give up knowing and hugging anyone they have ever loved to come to earth, remain hidden and abduct cows


as in the above link, I believe the great filter is the ANSWER to the fermi paradox and also to the question of 'are we alone'?:

The Fermi paradox is predicated on an assumption that all life or intelligence would operate under the same set of rules, instincts, and motives as humanity. It also assumes that any intelligent extraterrestrial lifeforms would be in a shape or substance that is visible - or at least discernible - to human perception.

What if alien lifeforms look and behave like UV rays?

What if alien lifeforms cannot die, therefore have no even understand of what it means to "kill" or "destroy."

What if alien lifeforms are ****ing insects, and there's literally billions of them on earth?

What if they are simply a conscious thought that moves in an out of our minds, exploring and mining, without us ever knowing?

The idea that alien life would be carbon-based, oxygen-breathing, anthropomorphic, organic, hard-shell bodies is laughably egotistical.
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Old 12-20-2017, 03:45 PM   #47
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There isn't any other element beyond carbon that can form the basis for life.
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Old 12-20-2017, 03:48 PM   #48
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So hard to accept that a universe that is millions of years old, millions of planets and so incredibly vast that we are the only living beings in the entire place.

I lean in the direction that there is or was life in our fantastic universe.
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There isn't any other element beyond carbon that can form the basis for life.
While this is true on Earth, how can we be 100% sure that this science applies to the rest of the universe?
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Old 12-20-2017, 03:50 PM   #50
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While this is true on Earth, how can we be 100% sure that this science applies to the rest of the universe?
Physics.
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Old 12-20-2017, 03:57 PM   #51
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Scientists admit everything they know about physics is likely wrong

http://yournewswire.com/scientists-a...-likely-wrong/
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:11 PM   #52
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What if alien lifeforms look and behave like UV rays?
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:28 PM   #53
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If you aren't from here, would to come here? Our planet might be deadly to other forms of life.

I believe there is life out there, possibly even in our own solar system. Advanced life, and I think it's a big stretch to call ourselves advanced, would probably avoid an aggressive species such as humans. We can't even figure out how to communicate with the other intelligent life on our planet much less an advanced species from another world.
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:32 PM   #54
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It's pretty much a certainty that we're not alone in the universe. Life is out there in some form. Probably many forms. But I don't find this video very convincing. Which is disappointing, if this is the best evidence to be found from an actual secret government UFO program. The only convincing part is the eyewitness account. But unfortunately, eyewitness accounts are proven to be pretty unreliable.

Here's the thing about UFOs... we now have a society in which everyone has a video camera in their pocket. We have telescopes scanning the skies at all times. Countless scientists peering at the stars with the best scientific equipment ever created. Yet there's still really no evidence that's actually downright convincing. We're still left with grainy lowres video and eyewitness accounts.
This all day long. I suspect there is a UFO button you can push on videos to just add one in at this point.
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If you aren't from here, would to come here? Our planet might be deadly to other forms of life.

I believe there is life out there, possibly even in our own solar system. Advanced life, and I think it's a big stretch to call ourselves advanced, would probably avoid an aggressive species such as humans. We can't even figure out how to communicate with the other intelligent life on our planet much less an advanced species from another world.
Hawking sees it the other way around, that WE would do well to avoid advanced beings, citing humanities own history of what happens when advanced people descend on primitives

Its too late for that though, they've been coming here for eons
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Hawking sees it the other way around, that WE would do well to avoid advanced beings, citing humanities own history of what happens when advanced people descend on primitives

Its too late for that though, they've been coming here for eons
Yeah, I've read what he has to say. That we should keep hidden so some advanced race doesn't take our planet away from us. This is based on the assumption that life is aggressive and that an advanced race would, as they say in Star Trek, come in peace and shoot to kill.

Science Channel had an interesting take on first encounter. I think it's probably more likely that we would encounter some sort of artificial life sent to investigate.

I still believe that a race advanced enough to get here would probably view us more like we view bacteria; interesting for a short time and them they would get bored and move on to something more interesting.

Realistically, what would we have to offer? The ability to lie, cheat and steal their technology?
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