QB Impressions - Page 43

Direckshun · 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

BryanBusby · 09-16-2017, 08:14 PM

at anyone who thought this shit was better than Mahomes

Where's that ginger ****er at to tell people that 18 is the big year!

**RealSNR** · 09-16-2017, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

at anyone who thought this shit was better than Mahomes

Where's that ginger ****er at to tell people that 18 is the big year!

Who? Billay?

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2017, 09:37 PM

As I mentioned, Darnold has regressed

BryanBusby · 09-16-2017, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Who? Billay?

Yeah. He was the ****er that claimed very heavily that they should wait it out for Josh Allen.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

As I mentioned, Darnold has regressed

I think Darnold will eventually be a top 5 NFL choice, but people got worked up far too quickly and forgot that he's pretty young and isn't NFL ready. They saw 5 minutes of him against Penn St and thought they had seen everything they needed to see.

He's still got a lot to learn at USC.

**RealSNR** · 09-16-2017, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Yeah. He was the ****er that claimed very heavily that they should wait it out for Josh Allen.

Good. Now I'm rooting hard for Allen to fail. Next time the ginger tard takes a potshot at me and claims I don't know my football, he's going to get a faceful of rape.

OldSchool · 09-16-2017, 11:22 PM

Josh Allen is pulling a Hackenberg.

milkman · 09-16-2017, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Good. Now I'm rooting hard for Allen to fail. Next time the ginger tard takes a potshot at me and claims I don't know my football, he's going to get a faceful of rape.

You actually let someone that has never said an intelligent thing about football, or anything for that matter, to get under your skin?

GloucesterChief · 09-17-2017, 10:35 AM

Falk seemed to have rebounded from his really bad game against Boise. It is Oregon State which hasn't been decent in a while but still. We will see in two weeks when USC comes up to the Palouse.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-18-2017, 09:50 AM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ing-an-eye-on/

7. Josh Allen, Wyoming

Stock Down

Since forever, many NFL coaches have believed if a quarterback has all the physical tools he can be taught the intricacies of the position. For example, Josh Allen is 6-feet-4 with plus athleticism and a Matthew Stafford-esque arm, hence his first-round (or to some, No. 1 overall) hype heading into this season.

But I think it's time we turn that old-school philosophy on its head. To me, arm strength can be developed at the NFL level. Accuracy, coverage-reading and sound decision-making cannot. If you're having trouble consistently throwing an accurate football, reading a defense, or choosing when it's OK to fire a pass into tight coverage in college, how in the world are you going to suddenly improve in all those areas against the most challenging competition on Earth? You're not.

This theory applies directly to Allen. He was blessed with immense physical talent. There is absolutely no doubting that. But he has much to learn regarding the vital nuances of playing quarterback.

Also, there's a caveat here. Like I wrote after his poor performance against Iowa, I'm not going blast him when Wyoming is ridiculously overmatched, and it certainly was against Oregon. He has a tendency to try to do too much to account for the sizable gap in talent when his Cowboys face a team from a Power Five conference, but he can't do it alone. His receivers haven't exactly helped to boost his draft stock either.

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Any team that selects Allen in the first round, let alone Top 5, will be disappointed with the results.

You can't teach accuracy.

kccrow · 09-18-2017, 01:28 PM

I stick by my assertion that Mason Rudolph is the cream of the 2018 crop.

Frosty · 09-18-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Falk seemed to have rebounded from his really bad game against Boise. It is Oregon State which hasn't been decent in a while but still.

I wouldn't get too excited about the results of last weekend's game. My Beavers would struggle against a high school team this year.

BryanBusby · 09-18-2017, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ing-an-eye-on/

7. Josh Allen, Wyoming

Stock Down

Since forever, many NFL coaches have believed if a quarterback has all the physical tools he can be taught the intricacies of the position. For example, Josh Allen is 6-feet-4 with plus athleticism and a Matthew Stafford-esque arm, hence his first-round (or to some, No. 1 overall) hype heading into this season.

But I think it's time we turn that old-school philosophy on its head. To me, arm strength can be developed at the NFL level. Accuracy, coverage-reading and sound decision-making cannot. If you're having trouble consistently throwing an accurate football, reading a defense, or choosing when it's OK to fire a pass into tight coverage in college, how in the world are you going to suddenly improve in all those areas against the most challenging competition on Earth? You're not.

This theory applies directly to Allen. He was blessed with immense physical talent. There is absolutely no doubting that. But he has much to learn regarding the vital nuances of playing quarterback.

Also, there's a caveat here. Like I wrote after his poor performance against Iowa, I'm not going blast him when Wyoming is ridiculously overmatched, and it certainly was against Oregon. He has a tendency to try to do too much to account for the sizable gap in talent when his Cowboys face a team from a Power Five conference, but he can't do it alone. His receivers haven't exactly helped to boost his draft stock either.

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Any team that selects Allen in the first round, let alone Top 5, will be disappointed with the results.

You can't teach accuracy.

I think it comes down to why a player is inaccurate. In a lotof cases, yeah that's correct. Just ask Hack and the Jets.

O.city · 09-18-2017, 08:40 PM

Rosen and darnold are gonna be good pros. They're legit

BryanBusby · 09-18-2017, 08:59 PM

I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.

OldSchool · 09-18-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.

Isn't he just a redshirt Sophomore this year?

01-03-2017, 12:25 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $3293447	QB Impressions First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 6'4", 230 lbs 26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 6'3", 220 lbs 30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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09-16-2017, 08:14 PM	#631
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3619900 VARSITY	at anyone who thought this shit was better than Mahomes Where's that ginger ****er at to tell people that 18 is the big year!
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09-16-2017, 09:37 PM	#633
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	As I mentioned, Darnold has regressed
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09-16-2017, 11:22 PM	#636
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Josh Allen is pulling a Hackenberg.
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09-17-2017, 10:35 AM	#638
GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $26454	Falk seemed to have rebounded from his really bad game against Boise. It is Oregon State which hasn't been decent in a while but still. We will see in two weeks when USC comes up to the Palouse.
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09-18-2017, 09:50 AM	#639
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ing-an-eye-on/ 7. Josh Allen, Wyoming Stock Down Since forever, many NFL coaches have believed if a quarterback has all the physical tools he can be taught the intricacies of the position. For example, Josh Allen is 6-feet-4 with plus athleticism and a Matthew Stafford-esque arm, hence his first-round (or to some, No. 1 overall) hype heading into this season. But I think it's time we turn that old-school philosophy on its head. To me, arm strength can be developed at the NFL level. Accuracy, coverage-reading and sound decision-making cannot. If you're having trouble consistently throwing an accurate football, reading a defense, or choosing when it's OK to fire a pass into tight coverage in college, how in the world are you going to suddenly improve in all those areas against the most challenging competition on Earth? You're not. This theory applies directly to Allen. He was blessed with immense physical talent. There is absolutely no doubting that. But he has much to learn regarding the vital nuances of playing quarterback. Also, there's a caveat here. Like I wrote after his poor performance against Iowa, I'm not going blast him when Wyoming is ridiculously overmatched, and it certainly was against Oregon. He has a tendency to try to do too much to account for the sizable gap in talent when his Cowboys face a team from a Power Five conference, but he can't do it alone. His receivers haven't exactly helped to boost his draft stock either. ---------- Any team that selects Allen in the first round, let alone Top 5, will be disappointed with the results. You can't teach accuracy.
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09-18-2017, 01:28 PM	#640
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $326403	I stick by my assertion that Mason Rudolph is the cream of the 2018 crop.
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3619900 VARSITY	I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is. He needs more time.
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