Anon - NASA on the Verge of Announcing Alien Life

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rausch

This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.

I am firmly in the "the human mind simply cannot grasp just how unbelievably large the scale we're operating on here is" camp. And then throw in the whole 3 dimensional thing (which the human mind has a notoriously hard time conceptualizing) and you start to understand that even if we're looking for the right things and with the right tools, the odds of us looking at the right place and at the right time are almost infinitesimally small.

When people say "Man, how hard could it actually be to find Planet 9?" and then you listen to someone smart explain EXACTLY how hard it can be and why there's a really good chance that we just never find the thing even though we can see its wake, you get just an inkling of an understanding of the void we're dealing with.

These scales are just so far beyond our comprehension that it makes me think that A) it's virtually impossible that life doesn't exist SOMEWHERE but B) it's nearly as unlikely that we'll find it or it us over any appreciable timeline.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

These scales are just so far beyond our comprehension...

I think that's the key issue.

It's so mind blowing you either say "**** it, I'm out" or it's something you want to look into.

On or off.
Left or right.
Dem or Rep...

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I am firmly in the "the human mind simply cannot grasp just how unbelievably large the scale we're operating on here is" camp. And then throw in the whole 3 dimensional thing (which the human mind has a notoriously hard time conceptualizing) and you start to understand that even if we're looking for the right things and with the right tools, the odds of us looking at the right place and at the right time are almost infinitesimally small.

When people say "Man, how hard could it actually be to find Planet 9?" and then you listen to someone smart explain EXACTLY how hard it can be and why there's a really good chance that we just never find the thing even though we can see its wake, you get just an inkling of an understanding of the void we're dealing with.

These scales are just so far beyond our comprehension that it makes me think that A) it's virtually impossible that life doesn't exist SOMEWHERE but B) it's nearly as unlikely that we'll find it or it us over any appreciable timeline.

Agreed.

I don't recall where i saw it, or who taught it (I believe it was Neil Degrasse Tyson) but he illustrated it perfectly.

Warning: I'm about to butcher what i learned, but i hope i can spit out the general idea.

He used an L.E.D particle board to illustrate how unlikely we are to find life because of the scale of time. Each time an L.E.D momentarily blipped on and off, that represented several hundred thousand years, or the life and death of a civilization.

The point being that time and space operate at such a grand scale that our mere existence and the existence of other intelligent civilizations is nothing more than a mere blip, and the reason why we haven't found other life is because they have already expired or not even come to fruition yet.

And because Time/Space is so vast and any signal would take so long to reach us that even if we did get a signal from an extraterrestrial civilization that it's quite possible that civilization has already come and gone before we even got the signal.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't recall where i saw it, or who taught it (I believe it was Neil Degrasse Tyson) but he illustrated it perfectly.

Warning: I'm about to butcher what i learned, but i hope i can spit out the general idea.

He used an L.E.D particle board to illustrate how unlikely we are to find life because of the scale of time.

He is also deeply compromised on his beliefs due to his station in life.

He falls under that same sick Kaku succumbed to...