Football Osweiler + 2nd Round Pick to the Browns - Page 4

Dante84 · 03-09-2017, 02:39 PM

Freeing up space for Romo to Houston?

Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 9, 2017

DJ's left nut · 03-09-2017, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Well then. That's a legit stunner. Houston gave up picks just to dump his contract.

The Browns had a zillion dollars in cap space and numerous picks. They can still sign guys and/or draft another QB.

That's actually really smart.

Some basketball teams in recent years have wised up a bit and realized that they have cap space but no talent to use it on. So they take on a shitty player's bad contract for a draft pick. They burn space they didn't want to use on a mediocre player on a long-term deal and in the process get a free pick from the deal.

Nice move from Cleveland. They had more space than there were players to spend it on, so get the pick, cut Oswieler if necessary and get a nice '18 draft pick to use as a potential chip to trade up in a loaded '18 QB class.

Amnorix · 03-09-2017, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

So the only thing Houston got out of this trade was getting rid of their quarterback? That seems unprecedented. I've never heard of such a thing in the NFL.

Yes. This is an NBA-like salary cap dump move.

Browns got -- Osweiler, Houston's 2017 6th rounder, and 2018 2nd round pick.

Houston got -- Cleveland's 2017 4th round pick, and rid of the albatross contract.

DJ's left nut · 03-09-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Mahomes to the Texans

Very possibly, yes.

And the Browns have that much more thunder to throw at the '18 class.

It's not a positive development for KC.

Mr. Laz · 03-09-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yes. This is an NBA-like salary cap dump move.

yep

I wonder who thought it up, Houston or Cleveland?

Probably Houston

Nickhead · 03-09-2017, 03:01 PM

it actually is smart. wasn't cleveland and the raiders in danger of being fined for not using a certain percentage of their cap space? maybe not the raiders now, but a year before they had a shit ton of space too.

tk13 · 03-09-2017, 03:02 PM

We would be celebrating if the Chiefs did this. The Browns were going to have to spend a ton to just hit the cap floor. They are still going to have around $90 million to spend, and they have a dozen draft picks this year, and 8 picks in the first four rounds over the next two years.

They could draft multiple QBs and still reload the team up and down the line. Now this is the Browns, so they'll find a way to mess it up, but they are in a tremendous position to rebuild. I wonder how much Paul DePodesta had a hand in this. He's a baseball "Moneyball" guy they brought in to work in football operations.

staylor26 · 03-09-2017, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's actually really smart.

Some basketball teams in recent years have wised up a bit and realized that they have cap space but no talent to use it on. So they take on a shitty player's bad contract for a draft pick. They burn space they didn't want to use on a mediocre player on a long-term deal and in the process get a free pick from the deal.

Nice move from Cleveland. They had more space than there were players to spend it on, so get the pick, cut Oswieler if necessary and get a nice '18 draft pick to use as a potential chip to trade up in a loaded '18 QB class.

Laz tried to make fun of Cleveland for this

I got a kick out of that

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-09-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

So the only thing Houston got out of this trade was getting rid of their quarterback? That seems unprecedented. I've never heard of such a thing in the NFL.

If you watched the first 8 or so Texan games last year, trust me, it makes perfect sense. He was slipping into Ryan Leaf/Todd Marinovich territory, in terms of being a bad qb and a terrible leader. He's not a bright human being. If the Texans would've bothered to have a face-to-face meeting with him before throwing away tens of millions on him (they didn't), that would've been apparent to them.

Kudos to his agent though, that guy is a freaking wizard.

WhawhaWhat · 03-09-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yes. This is an NBA-like salary cap dump move.

Browns got -- Osweiler, Houston's 2017 6th rounder, and 2018 2nd round pick.

Houston got -- Cleveland's 2017 4th round pick, and rid of the albatross contract.

I believe the Browns now have 10 picks in 2017 and 10 picks in 2018. Plus more if they get any comp picks next year.

ct · 03-09-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I don't quite understand, but there's speculation that the Browns will make the trade, then release Ossweiler.

sure as hell what i'd do, or dump him for a 7th to NYJ

Unsmooth-Moment · 03-09-2017, 03:05 PM

Cleveland wins this one just due to their cap space.

beach tribe · 03-09-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Might as well keep him for a year though.

big cap hit

No shit.

Take the cap hit and keep the cash.

They won't be anywhere near the cap ceiling anyway.

ChiliConCarnage · 03-09-2017, 03:07 PM

Seems like a win for both teams really. Bigger win for the Browns who get a look at a QB a couple of teams were offering 15 mill+ just a year ago plus the pick swap improvement.

St. Patty's Fire · 03-09-2017, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

You see this kind of shit in the NBA.

First time I've heard of a "salary dump" trade in the NFL in quite some time.

happens a LOT in the nhl

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-09-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

I believe the Browns now have 10 picks in 2017 and 10 picks in 2018. Plus more if they get any comp picks next year.

Too bad they're so terrible at drafting.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1742500	We would be celebrating if the Chiefs did this. The Browns were going to have to spend a ton to just hit the cap floor. They are still going to have around $90 million to spend, and they have a dozen draft picks this year, and 8 picks in the first four rounds over the next two years. They could draft multiple QBs and still reload the team up and down the line. Now this is the Browns, so they'll find a way to mess it up, but they are in a tremendous position to rebuild. I wonder how much Paul DePodesta had a hand in this. He's a baseball "Moneyball" guy they brought in to work in football operations.
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ChiliConCarnage TACO SALAD Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: yes Casino cash: $1538468	Seems like a win for both teams really. Bigger win for the Browns who get a look at a QB a couple of teams were offering 15 mill+ just a year ago plus the pick swap improvement.
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