NFL Draft Dorsey shares a few thoughts on the QB class - Page 3

Quesadilla Joe · 03-06-2017, 06:15 AM

From Albert Breer's MMQB column.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/06/m...owns-nfl-draft

Spoiler!

After spending a week in Indianapolis, and four days last month in Mobile, I’d tell you there are five quarterbacks with a shot at going in the first round—Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer, Texas Tech’s Pat Mahomes, North Carolina’s Mitchell Trubisky, Clemson’s Deshaun Watson, and Cal’s Davis Webb.

In what order, I don’t know. And I don’t think NFL teams have that figured out yet, either. But some themes to the class have emerged.

“First off, what stands out, I think there’s only one guy that’s ever taken a snap from under center,” Chiefs GM John Dorsey told me. “How about that one? It shows how we’re evolving into a spread-option era. Then, what you have to analyze is can they spit out a play in the huddle? If you look at the majority of these guys, everybody’s signaling everything in from the sideline.

“These are the types of things people are looking for as they sit and they talk to these players. Can they sit and regurgitate an offensive play? That’s hard to do, especially in (our) system, it’s really hard to do. But on the whole, they’re a more athletic group.

“Are there any finished products here? I don’t think so. So where are the warts, and are you willing to live with the warts? That’s what people are asking.”

I then asked Dorsey if any of the quarterbacks are ready to play. He smiled and said, “Me personally?” Then a long pause, another smile, and a “No.”

Again, that doesn’t mean there’s not plenty to like with the group, and more to dissect. So I asked one AFC personnel director to break down for me what he saw from the quarterbacks. He missed Webb, but got the other four. Here are his notes, with the caveat he wanted to emphasize—these guys are throwing different routes to receivers they don’t know …

• Kizer: Big, strong, good arm and velocity. Smooth release. Inconsistent feet, timing and accuracy. Had the same misses on multiple reps.

• Mahomes: Tight release, but thought he would be more consistent and better throwing deep.

• Trubisky: Athletic, good arm strength. Some inconsistency in accuracy and timing and deep ball.

• Watson: Very consistent, athletic. Easy motion. Easy ball to catch.

A winner for the week? It was Watson. He blew teams away in interviews to the point where I know a couple clubs that weren’t wild about him were anxious to go back and take a second look at the tape to see if they missed on their evaluation. And his field work was very good.

I wrote last month that Trubisky was the leader to be the first quarterback taken, and I still think that’s probably the likelihood. But Watson has gained some ground.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-06-2017, 10:09 AM

He is going to draft another QB from Cal....

Webb.

Red Dawg · 03-06-2017, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The quotes from John Dorsey on lack of QB readiness are interesting. You can feel the frustration. https://t.co/7MixaaGAPG
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 6, 2017

Not sure if it's good news or bad news. He won't just take one out of need. He has to believe in the QB picked and this for certain he likes none of them.

Titty Meat · 03-06-2017, 10:11 AM

Way more talented draft class next year and 2 good free agent QBs. No need to reach in this draft with all the talent at various positions.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-06-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The quotes from John Dorsey on lack of QB readiness are interesting. You can feel the frustration. https://t.co/7MixaaGAPG
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 6, 2017

...and last year he baited you into lynch. Your point??

CasselGotPeedOn · 03-06-2017, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

...and last year he baited you into lynch. Your point??

It's crazy how much Denver owns your soul.

Danguardace · 03-06-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Smokescreens all day long

This

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-06-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

It's crazy how much Denver owns your soul.

Awe poor wil fewwa!!

DJ's left nut · 03-06-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Name me one instance in which he has practiced subterfuge.

The whole 'secret meetings with Marcus Peters so teams wouldn't know the Chiefs liked him' thing wasn't good enough for you?

And the smart money was on Joekel in the Fisher draft. When did he tip his hand at all on the Ford pick?

In short, precisely what the **** are you talking about?

**BossChief** · 03-06-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yes, so we can choose the bust while the other goes on to have a Hall of Fame career.

I trust Dorseys evaluation.

I just hope that whoever he picks has a big brain and an even bigger arm.

oldman · 03-06-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Draft a QB in the first! I don't care who it is!

I hope that's sarcasm. Unfortunately, that's the battle cry of many on this board. The fact is that none of this year's crop is NFL ready. If Dorsey sees potential in any of them, they're not worth giving up the farm and reaching. The only reason so many of these guys are projected to go in the 1st round is that the talent pool sucks.
I'm not saying we should sit on our hands, but I don't see overpaying for a true 2nd or 3rd rounder.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-06-2017, 11:42 AM

Trying to make teams possibly picking QBs before them think twice, IMO. He didn't say anything that wasn't true. All of these QBs are not going to be ready day one, which is why they shouldn't be drafted in the top 10.

If they want a QBOTF, they will be taken in the 1st or 2nd round. Doesn't really make me feel any different.

Reerun_KC · 03-06-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I hope that's sarcasm. Unfortunately, that's the battle cry of many on this board. The fact is that none of this year's crop is NFL ready. If Dorsey sees potential in any of them, they're not worth giving up the farm and reaching. The only reason so many of these guys are projected to go in the 1st round is that the talent pool sucks.
I'm not saying we should sit on our hands, but I don't see overpaying for a true 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Same thing the fans that only want hope and noise in the playoffs approach has been for the last 3 decades +!

Lets not over reach, lets not over pay, lets not give up the farm for a QB...

Lets get a 17$million a year QB that can manage the game and not win when it matters...

Coochie liquor · 03-06-2017, 11:55 AM

Chiefnj2 · 03-06-2017, 11:55 AM

Prescott played in a spread-option offense and it was thought he'd need time to adjust playing under center, etc.

If there is a will, there is a way. KC has no will for a young QB. 2017 will be a wasted year.

kcchiefsus · 03-06-2017, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Way more talented draft class next year and 2 good free agent QBs. No need to reach in this draft with all the talent at various positions.

Next year the top guys will most likely go well before our pick. The players available in our range will have their flaws, so undoubtedly Dorsey will be too much of a chicken shit and will pass on them again. You'll see similar quotes from him lamenting the lack of pocket passers with experience under center. Meanwhile, other teams will continue to find winning quarterbacks.

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