Chiefs rabblerouser : I also think that the Chiefs can still win with Alex Smith - Page 5

rabblerouser · 01-17-2017, 09:12 AM

But not with Andy Reid.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't see any reason to rush this. I don't think Alex gives us a great chance at a super bowl. But he gives as an outside chance of one. I would only give him 1-2 years anyway and I'm guessing he does too, judging by his wife's comments. Groom a QB on the bench. There's no reason to rush it but there is a critical urgency to find a clear QBOTF. Not just giving a young QB a shot... finding a guy we believe can start for us for 10 years.

over the past few days I've realized that Alex Smith isn't the problem. it's Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs can definitely win with Alex Smith, win a Super Bowl even.

We'd need a coach like a Gruden/Payton/Harbaugh/Carroll/Garrett/McCarthy type to get the most of Smith and our talented but underachieving offense.

FlaChief58 · 01-17-2017, 08:11 PM

Go home, you're drunk

DJJasonp · 01-17-2017, 08:20 PM

I think Reid calls plays that fits within a very narrow spectrum of what he thinks Smith can handle.

He went downfield plenty in Philly. Yes, he has timeout and clock management issues, but he's a damn good coach.

Good QBs make the throws they are supposed to make. Great QBs make plays where no play looks possible.

Therein lies the problem....we have an average QB, not good....not great, just average.

SMith...

gold_and_red · 01-17-2017, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I think Reid calls plays that fits within a very narrow spectrum of what he thinks Smith can handle.

He went downfield plenty in Philly. Yes, he has timeout and clock management issues, but he's a damn good coach.

Good QBs make the throws they are supposed to make. Great QBs make plays where no play looks possible.

Therein lies the problem....we have an average QB, not good....not great, just average.

SMith...

So why isn't the offense scoring as much as we would like even after 4 years if Reid is trying to maximize Smith's strengths?

**New World Order** · 01-17-2017, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I think Reid calls plays that fits within a very narrow spectrum of what he thinks Smith can handle.

He went downfield plenty in Philly. Yes, he has timeout and clock management issues, but he's a damn good coach.

Good QBs make the throws they are supposed to make. Great QBs make plays where no play looks possible.

Therein lies the problem....we have an average QB, not good....not great, just average.

SMith...

Yep

Steve Sewell · 01-17-2017, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

No, anyone who can't see that it's obviously rigged is ****ing delusional. And a childish moron who doesn't want to give up his childish fantasies of the NFL sanctioning a league borne of legitimate sporting contests and not of mob - sanctioned gambling fronts...

There are a lot of mediocre to bad franchises in the NFL that constantly turn over their management and/or lack the understanding of the importance of a franchise QB.

The chiefs seem to be a fairly stable organization that completely fails to value elite QB play and development and it's the primary reason they haven't done shit since Montana.

It has nothing to do with being rigged.

splatbass · 01-17-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka

Raiders/Carr
Bucs/Winston
Titans/Mariota
Vikings/Bridgewater (kinda)
Colts/Luck
Eagles/Wentz
Cowboys/Prescott

Lot of SB winners there....

splatbass · 01-17-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

And of course throw in one more Donko Manning in 2015 for good measure....

This reminds me of the "one of these things is not like the others" song.

FanOfRED · 01-17-2017, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gold_and_red

So why isn't the offense scoring as much as we would like even after 4 years if Reid is trying to maximize Smith's strengths?

He is maximizing Smith's strenghts. Short quick screen passes is Smith's strengths. He then hopes, I'm sure, that the receiver makes a break.

When Smith gets the shakes, it's time to rely on the defense. Unfortunately smith gets the shakes too often. That is what makes him inconsistent.

**Easy 6** · 01-17-2017, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

This reminds me of the "one of these things is not like the others" song.

Flacco provided explosive plays one after the other that year

There only so much refs can do and not be totally obvious about it, when the offense is dropping bombs

Jeeez dude, will you EVER allow yourself to be even mildly critical of our QB?

Eureka · 01-17-2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Lot of SB winners there....

Here's a list of the QB's still in the hunt...

Brady/developed by his team
Ryan/developed by his team
Rogers/developed by his team
Rothelisburger/developed by his team

These QB's have all been developed by the team that drafted them. It's a common theme for most SB winning QB's and it's a theme the Chiefs don't practice. Like Never!

splatbass · 01-17-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Flacco provided explosive plays one after the other that year

There only so much refs can do and not be totally obvious about it, when the offense is dropping bombs

Jeeez dude, will you EVER allow yourself to be even mildly critical of our QB?

Dumbass. My post has nothing to do with Alex Smith. It was a joke based on the fact that it was the same three guys over and over except for Flacco. Why do I need to explain a children's song to you?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-17-2017, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka

Here's a list of the QB's still in the hunt...

Brady/developed by his team
Ryan/developed by his team
Rogers/developed by his team
Rothelisburger/developed by his team

These QB's have all been developed by the team that drafted them. It's a common theme for most SB winning QB's and it's a theme the Chiefs don't practice. Like Never!

Steve young drafted by tampa bay
Kurt warner drafted from local supermarket

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-17-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Dumbass. My post has nothing to do with Alex Smith. It was a joke based on the fact that it was the same three guys over and over except for Flacco. Why do I need to explain a children's song to you?

Don't forget that you're talking to Easy 6.... he's...special.

**Bowser** · 01-17-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Someone please tell me why on earth would the Chiefs need more draft picks when we have a full set and 4 compensatory picks? Plus a payroll that is already tight...

Dorsey and Reid believe in Smith. Kelce and Maclin believe in him. That's all you need to know

If only the NFL allowed teams to package draft picks for players or to move around in order of the draft, huh?

**Bowser** · 01-17-2017, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Steve young drafted by tampa bay
Kurt warner drafted from local supermarket

So you're saying Alex Smith can't even get close to what some knucklehead that got promoted to produce after stocking shelves did as an NFL QB?

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DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $1645200	I think Reid calls plays that fits within a very narrow spectrum of what he thinks Smith can handle. He went downfield plenty in Philly. Yes, he has timeout and clock management issues, but he's a damn good coach. Good QBs make the throws they are supposed to make. Great QBs make plays where no play looks possible. Therein lies the problem....we have an average QB, not good....not great, just average. SMith... __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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