Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 7

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

rabblerouser · 11-21-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Or how about the defense had 2 chances in the 4th quarter to stop the Bucs but allowed 5 minutes to come off the clock resulting in a touchdown when we were only down a score.

At least Smith and the offense did what was needed after the defense couldn't at least hold TB to a field goal: score a touchdown

Facts. Not fiction.

Too little too late after giving the game away on the back breaking interception.

The TD he got after throwing the INT was the one he should've had on the drive before. It didn't matter at that point; Tampa went full on prevent and GAVE HIM 10 yard dink and dunk passes. That's why it took 4 min for him to score your vaunted TD.

Hey EVERYONE!! Alex Smith scored a TD yesterday! So it wasn't his fault they lost by 2 points after a 14 point swing on an INT in the red zone!

Because Tiggie says so.

All they needed was 20. If Alex throws incomplete on 2nd and 3rd down, instead of a PICK that was returned to the 50, then the Chiefs win.

The interception was the killer. Worse than Reid's timeout. Worse than the Defense giving up 19 points

Alex isn't asked to do much. What he IS asked to do, is not turn the ball over, and not put his defense in a bad position. Which he has failed at considerably since his concussion. The defense totally bailed him out against Jax; fact is, he has not been the same player this year, and he's definitely not been the same since Indy.

Anyone can tell themselves whatever, but fact is, he's done. Better just get use to it now.

threebag · 11-21-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

This thread is balls. Playmakers make plays when the game is on the line, and Alex threw an interception that cost his team the game at literally the worst time he possibly could. It was a one man route that was double covered. Alex should have never thrown that ball and the Chiefs lost because of it, period end of statement.

But other than that he was really good.

Your avatar makes me laugh everytime i see it now.

rabblerouser · 11-21-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

The offense scored 17 points, and you're yucking it up about completion percentage.

That's because he's an idiot who believes that he's actually smart.

Terrible combination.

KCUnited · 11-21-2016, 10:24 AM

Oh look, another Alex's Nephew thread.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Are you saying Smith/Offense didn't drive 78 yards down the field and score a touchdown to respond to TB's TD?

Yes or no.

All Smith does is win.......in ****ing garbage time.

WhiteWhale · 11-21-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Yep.

And despite the fact that we had TB pinned on their own 4 yard line, the defense stupidly allowed them to move the ball 60 yards.

And what did the offense do afterwards? -> Score a touchdown.

Keep blaming the offense you dummies.

17 points against one of the worst defenses in the league.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

The offense scored 17 points, and you're yucking it up about completion percentage.

Only had 25 minutes with the ball because we gave up 24 first downs on defense. Our offense actually scored quite quickly when we did have the rock as both TD drives were done in 4 minutes or less.

Facts, not fiction.

Next question.

rabblerouser · 11-21-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Oh look, another Alex's Nephew thread.

Ah, Alex is Tiggie's uncle? Makes sense now.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Too little too late after giving the game away on the back breaking interception.

The TD he got after throwing the INT was the one he should've had on the drive before. It didn't matter at that point; Tampa went full on prevent and GAVE HIM 10 yard dink and dunk passes. That's why it took 4 min for him to score your vaunted TD.

Hey EVERYONE!! Alex Smith scored a TD yesterday! So it wasn't his fault they lost by 2 points after a 14 point swing on an INT in the red zone!

Because Tiggie says so.

All they needed was 20. If Alex throws incomplete on 2nd and 3rd down, instead of a PICK that was returned to the 50, then the Chiefs win.

The interception was the killer. Worse than Reid's timeout. Worse than the Defense giving up 19 points

Alex isn't asked to do much. What he IS asked to do, is not turn the ball over, and not put his defense in a bad position. Which he has failed at considerably since his concussion. The defense totally bailed him out against Jax; fact is, he has not been the same player this year, and he's definitely not been the same since Indy.

Anyone can tell themselves whatever, but fact is, he's done. Better just get use to it now.

Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

tatorhog · 11-21-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Are you saying Smith/Offense didn't drive 78 yards down the field and score a touchdown to respond to TB's TD?

Yes or no.

You should watch the fish sticks episode of South Park.

You're Kanye West.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:27 AM

Bowser it's a very simple question. Yes or no.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

Alex: 0-1
Jameis: 1-0

WhiteWhale · 11-21-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That's because he's an idiot who believes that he's actually smart.

Terrible combination.

People can put it all on Alex, but there's a bottom line here:

The point is this: KC's offense this year is atrocious. Period. They've taken a huge step backwards from last year, and they were hardly amazing or even good last year. They were passable at best.

This isn't about blaming anyone for one game, it's about recognizing a pattern of failure.

JakeLV · 11-21-2016, 10:28 AM

A team scores 19 points against the defense, and the offense, led by Smith, can't best that... so the problem is the defense?

*insert snark here*

rabblerouser · 11-21-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

17 points against one of the worst defenses in the league.

He's a ****ing troll. At this point he can't possibly be serious. NO ONE can simultaneously literate and yet that stupid.

It's not mathematically possible.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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