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Old 10-16-2016, 04:52 PM  
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B-B-B-BUT Derek Carr is the best and the Chiefs are trash?
Come choke down your CROW.

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Old 10-17-2016, 04:02 PM   #136
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We're just wanting the best for the team. Carr provides.
just like yesterday?
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:05 PM   #137
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WR 3 in fantasy football
You ****ing kidding me? Your proof is FF. Your extra chromosome help you deduce that nugget of truth?
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:08 PM   #138
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WR 3 in fantasy football
Because FF is relevant to actual football.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:09 PM   #139
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Production and efficiency are two very separate things, with the latter a better indicator of the usage of a particular player.

Maclin's reception rate increased from 60% to 70% with Smith (the highest of his career), and on 20 less looks his # of TD's only went down by 2 (From 10 to 8).
So having a 400 yard receiver with a reception rate of 80 is better than having a 1400 yard receiver with a 60 percent rate?
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:11 PM   #140
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On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:16 PM   #141
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i remember that 2003 playoff loss

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the feeling anyway...I think I blocked the game out of my mind
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:30 PM   #142
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Because FF is relevant to actual football.
In fantasy football you usually want to play the ones who can produce and still find the end zone
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:33 PM   #143
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This is a fair point. The thing is, there are plenty of people who think the 'win now' idea was a deception based on selling the fans that we had a chance to win a ring now...which many feel is/was not true.

Thus I think many of us would have preferred to start rebuilding with a pick like carr, instead of pretending we could go all the way with alex...and selling seats.

The organization was in free fall / rebellion..seats were not selling for the 1st time since I can remember after winning like 8 games in 3 seasons......and then the cassel debacle.

I completely understand that we needed to win some games now and stop the bleeding, financially...and sell some seats. I get that. I just personally feel it would have been worth the risk to let a rookie 'run the show' for the reward it could have paid off in the future...

Whatever slim chances we have to make any real waves in the playoffs since we traded for him in 2013 are fading rapidly...so in a sense there are 2 pespectives here:

1) He has done his job, stabilized the franchise and prevented a full blown exodus or 'paper bag head' syndrome and broken the 93 playoff curse.

2) its possible we mortgaged away a little (or more) of our present and future by trading for him and contiuing to act as if we can go all the way with him at QB.


I personally dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the truths about the scenario....and the pros and cons of it all. Every decision has pros and cons. If it turns out we don't do much in the playoffs, ever with smith.....then I think it will be undeniable what the pros and cons are.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:36 PM   #144
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On this note and fyi, 3 more wins for Smith and he surpasses Green to become the KC #1 QB to have amassed the most wins (35) in his first 4 years as a Chief.

Not that it means everything, that he's better than Trent, or doesn't have his annoying issues some games. Just saying...
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Production and efficiency are two very separate things, with the latter a better indicator of the usage of a particular player.

Maclin's reception rate increased from 60% to 70% with Smith (the highest of his career), and on 20 less looks his # of TD's only went down by 2 (From 10 to 8).
This. Also scheme plays a role. Build a modest lead, and go conservative on offense. Game after game after game. Maclin has to build his stats in the first 3 quarters because in most of these wins, the Chiefs offense is on ice, for all intents and purposes, in the 4th.
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This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.
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This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.
Exactly.

Not the entire draft though. We still need our 6th pick for a QB. We're still trying to find the next Brady.
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This thread is so stupid. Carr has one bad game against our defense that finally showed what it can do, and all of a sudden he is garbage? I would trade Smith and our entire next year's draft for Carr.


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Exactly.

Not the entire draft though. We still need our 6th pick for a QB. We're still trying to find the next Brady.
What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.
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What's stupid is crying like bitches day after day about KC not having drafted this or that exciting young QB to develop.

We get it.. and even I approve of KC doing what you all are crying about.

It has not happened yet. Get over it. Pull your big boy pants up tight, and wipe your ****ing tears already. Deal with what is, and stop sniveling over what could have been. JFC, buncha babies.
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