Bob Sutton isn't the problem

[chiefzilla1501]

Hearing a lot of criticism of Sutton. Here's something interesting to consider. Sutton has been here 4 years. He's had 3 stretches where he's had to play some really bad cornerbacks:
-8 games with Marcus Cooper in 2013
-3-4 games in 2015 with Sean Smith out on injury, a rookie Marcus Peters, and Jamel Fleming getting picked on
-1 game this year with DJ White

Other than those 12-13 games, you know how many times Sutton gave up more than 20 points? 3 times. That means for 2/3 of the games, we've had a good to phenomenal defense.

For those who say he's shit the bed against great offenses. When he's had a mostly full cast, prior to this year he's done well against Pittsburgh twice, dominated NE (then did halfway decent in the playoffs against Denver), dominated San Diego almost every time, dominated Detroit, did very well against Seattle and Arizona. The only team that's had his number consistently outside of those 12-13 games is Peyton Manning.

I know he's flawed. When he has puke at the #2 CB, he can't adjust. But those who want him fired are spoiled. He's been awesome most of his time in KC.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Like I said, Sutton has to share in the blame, but his decisions arent as consistently vomit inducing IMO... and hell, if not for his defense we're 0-4

I scream at the tv far more when Reid and Smith are at work

That's reasonable. He's certainly fair game for valid criticism, but to act like he's the 2nd coming of Robinson by some is silly.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

That's reasonable. He's certainly fair game for valid criticism, but to act like he's the 2nd coming of Robinson by some is silly.

He is Dick LeBeau and Buddy Ryans even more diabolical lovechild compared to GRob

[xztop123]

defense puts an enormous pressure on corners and pass rush. the two things we dont have.

we ran a cover 3 some times last season (they broke it out in the chargers game) and we did fairly well with it. It might be worth trying if Gaines is out for some time.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

You are acting like Poe,Bailey and Howard have been some dominant force.

We're only 4 games into the season and you want to criticize coaching staff because they aren't playing Jones enough (although he's getting in on 25% of snaps) when he's playing behind 3 proven vets...?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

We're only 4 games into the season and you want to criticize coaching staff because they aren't playing Jones enough (although he's getting in on 25% of snaps) when he's playing behind 3 proven vets...?

I didn't say anything other than our Dline isn't doing anything special.

The rest of that shit is just you whining

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

I didn't say anything other than our Dline isn't doing anything special.

The rest of that shit is just you whining

Yes, but all 3 have a history of playing well, and pushing Jones after 4 games seems a bit reactionary. Ultimately, I would expect him to increase his reps and his play will dictate how much and how quickly he gets inserted into the lineup.

I'm not disagreeing with the lackluster play and expectations by the line. It's been improving, and in a 3-4, plus, looking at the LBs, the bigger glaring issue has been in the play of our LBs.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Criticizing Reid for offensive playcalling is easy because most people are watching offensive plays develop from snap to snap, and very few of them when watching a game in real time will focus on how the defense is picking up on routes and filling in gaps. Now, I'm admittedly not very adept at remembering which coverages we run and how often, but there are an insane amount of people on this forum that wouldn't know Cover-3 from a goddamn grapefruit, and they tend to be the same people who say, "Bob Sutton doesn't make adjustments in the game!" I'm willing to bet Sutton could make his defensive players wear ****ing clown wigs the rest of the game and not one of these assholes would notice it.

Criticizing Reid's playcalling is easy because we have 18 years of the same stupid shit as evidence.

Sutton isn't the problem. The problem starts at the top. The problem is ownership. The problem will never change.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Criticizing Reid's playcalling is easy because we have 18 years of the same stupid shit as evidence.

Sutton isn't the problem. The problem starts at the top. The problem is ownership. The problem will never change.

1983. Last QB taken in the 1st to be groomed as the starter. One constant in all those decades. Ownership.

Sadly, the Hunt's wet their beaks early in going to SB 1 & winning 4, and it seems to have satisfied ownership content with keeping a franchise good enough to remain relevant but unwilling to risk reaching for the next level if it means if their gamble doesn't pay off ending up like Jacksonville, no matter how temporary it might be.

[arrwheader]

Marcus cooper pick.....

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Marcus cooper pick.....

That's what three on the year? Hope we get a good pick out of that trade.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

That's what three on the year? Hope we get a good pick out of that trade.

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Marcus cooper pick.....

Please. Everyone around here wanted him shipped off! No way to claim seller's remorse on the guy now.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Which 2016 CB is kicking ass?

WJIII is on IR. Vonn Bell, who I liked, hasn't done dick for NO, one of the worst defenses in the league.

Eli Apple was inactive against the Vikings in a loss Monday night. Jalen Ramsey plays for a terrible defense and a 1-3 shit team with 16 special teams tackles.

Need I go on?

I liked artie burns

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Watch the film

[RunKC]

Bon sure looked like a problem there..
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[mnchiefsguy]

Let's have our worst CB cover Cooper.......

Sutton's lack of ability to change when the defense is getting torched by one player is astounding.