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Old 08-24-2016, 01:31 PM   #1
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:32 PM   #2
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:34 PM   #3
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Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
Exactly.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:34 PM   #4
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Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
It was already stated by someone else.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:36 PM   #5
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It was already stated by someone else.
Oh well that certainly clears it up, I definitely see your point now.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:38 PM   #6
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Oh well that certainly clears it up, I definitely see your point now.
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As far as I understand top draft picks get a choice between deferred language or the bonus up front.

Chargers continue to offer neither, so they can protect themselves.

The way it's being framed in the media, which obviously supports the NFL, is that Bosa is simply demanding his full bonus up front when he's essentially asking for the same thing every other player at his draft slot has received since 2012 and what 95% of draft picks in the top 3 rounds have received in the same span.

50% up front with offset language is a bad rookie deal for Bosa, and that's what had been offered. The new offer was basically the same thing with 60% up front.

The chargers, as usual, have been active in smearing Bosa and setting the narrative that he's just a greedy asshole. The truth is they're just squeezing pennies because their shit organization is broke.
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:23 AM   #7
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Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
Not getting his whole signing bonus up front costs him money.

what do you think the extra 7 million is worth over a years time?
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:43 AM   #8
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Not getting his whole signing bonus up front costs him money.

what do you think the extra 7 million is worth over a years time?
First of all based on what I've read they want to defer to March, so it's 6 months not a year. Also not getting any of his signing bonus or his salary is going to cost him even more. What is the full 17 million he's passing up worth over a year. Not to mention the fact that if he moves down he'll actually get less money and have to wait longer for it.

I agree the Chargers are being foolish here too, however the player has way more to lose in this case. The Chargers will have lost a top 3 pick, the player will cost himself millions of dollars, all because he's worried about getting part of it in 6 months
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:00 AM   #9
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First of all based on what I've read they want to defer to March, so it's 6 months not a year. Also not getting any of his signing bonus or his salary is going to cost him even more. What is the full 17 million he's passing up worth over a year. Not to mention the fact that if he moves down he'll actually get less money and have to wait longer for it.

I agree the Chargers are being foolish here too, however the player has way more to lose in this case. The Chargers will have lost a top 3 pick, the player will cost himself millions of dollars, all because he's worried about getting part of it in 6 months
the draft was in April iirc.
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the draft was in April iirc.
And now it's almost September so right now he'd be waiting 6 months. How much could he have made by now by investing the signing bonus he could have collected in May?
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And now it's almost September so right now he'd be waiting 6 months. How much could he have made by now by investing the signing bonus he could have collected in May?
Why should the team make money off of his money?
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

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This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
He's only screwing his own future up.
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