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Old 07-09-2016, 09:18 AM  
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Eric Berry ‘a bit surprised’ on lack of extension progress

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Old 07-16-2016, 07:18 PM   #691
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As I said before, this is why Dorsey selected the mass haul of DBs in the draft because Berry was being difficult
No it isn't, you useless dipshit.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:21 PM   #692
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No it isn't, you useless dipshit.


All of them were corners, and the one that will probably move to safety is going to be used in Abdullah's slot safety role.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:24 PM   #693
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I'm not worried longterm. I am confident that Ron Parker can play FS at a high level, and that the chiefs have enough talented defensive backs and linebackers who could be used as a SS.

Sutton used a lot more safeties because it had depth and was a strength of the team. He could just as easily shift to using more CBs if some of these young dbs pan out.

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“I think the game of football has changed and evolved more into a passing (game), probably in the last five years. So now, not only are you going vertical, you’re going horizontal and vertical. I think you see the different packages that are now being installed by defensive coordinators. And I think it is important to have as many good defensive backs on your team as you possibly can have. And that’s not taking away from the base package, the defensive linemen, some of the linebackers. I think that’s why you’re now starting to see some of your conventional inside backers that are now bigger safeties evolving into that package, a la – if you go to Arizona, they have a safety that’s evolved now. And Bob Sutton runs that same scheme as well.
kinda like how they are using Daniel Sorenson, and possibly what they are envisioning of Justin March who at just under 6' and 227lbs is a little small for a traditional 3-4 ILB.
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One area where March shined last year — and has continued to shine in offseason workouts this month — is in pass coverage. He’s had multiple pass breakups in coverage in practices, and he shows good athleticism and change-of-direction skills for a linebacker, a boon in today’s pass-happy NFL.
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"I think the one thing we like to do is we like to try to see if we can get some speed at that position [linebacker]. The game has changed a little bit. I think the one thing that these guys can do is they can run to the football, which is good. I think they have a really nice feel for the position. They understand the passing components of the game, but they're also physical enough where they can stack inside on the running game.

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Old 07-16-2016, 07:34 PM   #694
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I'm not worried longterm. I am confident that Ron Parker can play FS at a high level, and that the chiefs have enough talented defensive backs and linebackers who could be used as a SS.

Sutton used a lot more safeties because it had depth and was a strength of the team. He could just as easily shift to using more CBs if some of these young dbs pan out.

http://www.chiefs.com/news/article-2...7-58c17b358247


http://www.chiefs.com/news/article-2...4-4b6b91e03591
Interesting. Those quotes kinda go along with what I was saying here:

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I agree, but not trading up for Lynch and not getting a deal done with Berry were not "mistakes".

Not spending a draft pick on a box safety? Now that was a mistake, but hindsight is 20/20, and we still have one more offseason to get that guy.

Who knows? Maybe Shakiel Randolph is that guy. And maybe they intend on playing two ILB's (DJ and March) more often.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:52 PM   #695
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I agree, but not trading up for Lynch and not getting a deal done with Berry were not "mistakes".

Not spending a draft pick on a box safety? Now that was a mistake, but hindsight is 20/20, and we still have one more offseason to get that guy.

Who knows? Maybe Shakiel Randolph is that guy. And maybe they intend on playing two ILB's (DJ and March) more often.
You know this how? You have no idea how Lynch will turn out. Nobody does.

Every NFL casual fan and GM outside of KC would take Derek Carr over Dee Ford if they had to choose today.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:03 PM   #696
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I don't really pay attention to contracts since I have accountants who handle that stuff. Does this news on Berry signal that he's in his last year with the team, or is it likely that a deal will get done next year/
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:04 PM   #697
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You know this how? You have no idea how Lynch will turn out. Nobody does.

Every NFL casual fan and GM outside of KC would take Derek Carr over Dee Ford if they had to choose today.
I know that he's never going to be anything special with his mental limitations. His ceiling is Flacco, and just like Carr he's not a guy I'm going to lose sleep over for passing up.

Carr is extremely overrated. He was terrible down the stretch, and another guy I think will be held back because of the mental aspect. We might not have a legitimate QBOTF on the roster, but guys like Ford and Jones can actually help this team win a SB RIGHT NOW, which is what I'm more
concerned with. If we win it all in the next couple years I wouldn't care less that we passed on a couple of QB's that will never be elite.

When the Raiders have to pay up for Carr he will go from asset on a good contract to an overpaid QB with a contract that makes him difficult to build around.

These guys are not Manning/Brady/Rodgers caliber.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:09 PM   #698
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As I said before, this is why Dorsey selected the mass haul of DBs in the draft because Berry was being difficult
And as I've said before, you're stupid.

The Chiefs selected a mass haul of DBs because they lost their starter, and 2 important safeties, and converted 2 corners to safety.
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I know that he's never going to be anything special with his mental limitations. His ceiling is Flacco, and just like Carr he's not a guy I'm going to lose sleep over for passing up.

Carr is extremely overrated. He was terrible down the stretch, and another guy I think will be held back because of the mental aspect. We might not have a legitimate QBOTF on the roster, but guys like Ford and Jones can actually help this team win a SB RIGHT NOW, which is what I'm more
concerned with. If we win it all in the next couple years I wouldn't care less that we passed on a couple of QB's that will never be elite.

When the Raiders have to pay up for Carr he will go from asset on a good contract to an overpaid QB with a contract that makes him difficult to build around.

These guys are not Manning/Brady/Rodgers caliber.
Lmao alright Miss Cleo

Nobody has a clue how Carr's career will project and Ford isn't going to help the team win when he often runs himself out of plays.
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Does this news on Berry signal that he's in his last year with the team, or is it likely that a deal will get done next year/


just like this yr, it will likely depend on whether the Chiefs and Berry can agree on his value/worth and if any other safeties step up.

Its the same thing with Jamaal Charles. Ware and West make Charles more expendible in 2017 than if the chiefs didnt have proven backups with starter ability.
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I don't really pay attention to contracts since I have accountants who handle that stuff. Does this news on Berry signal that he's in his last year with the team, or is it likely that a deal will get done next year/
I think this will be Berry's last year as a Chief. If they couldn't get a deal done now, and if the rumor is true that they were never really even close to a deal, well, it'd sure seem that getting a deal done after this year is unlikely. He be gone.
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Lmao alright Miss Cleo

Nobody has a clue how Carr's career will project and Ford isn't going to help the team win when he often runs himself out of plays.
Ford won a game on his own to keep our playoff hopes alive last season.

That's more than Carr would've done on our bench behind Smith.

You guys can keep acting like Ford is a certified bust, but the fact is he could've easily had an 8+ sack season had he started all 16 games, and should this season assuming he stays healthy.

He was among the leagues best in pressures from when he started to the end of the season, and if those pressures start turning into sacks he will be looked upon in a much different light, just like Fisher last year.

I'm betting he does and him and Houston turn into a dynamic duo coming off the edge

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Also, what is up with all the hypocrisy today?

I'm miss Cleo for saying Carr won't be elite, but you can write off Ford after 7 or 8 starts?

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Ford won a game on his own to keep our playoff hopes alive last season.

That's more than Carr would've done on our bench behind Smith.

You guys can keep acting like Ford is a certified bust, but the fact is he could've easily had an 8 sack season had he started all 16 games, and should this season assuming he stays healthy.

He was among the leagues best in pressures from when he started to the end of the season, and if those pressures start turning into sacks he will be looked upon in a much different light, just like Fisher last year.

I'm betting he does and him and Houston turn into a dynamic duo coming off the edge
He racked up a group of sacks against like a 4th or 5th string Left Tackle. He had an unusual situation for one rainy ass Sunday and just ran real fast with mixed results at best for the rest of the time.

Dee Ford has been a disappointment and will be a bust if he doesn't produce results. He hasn't had the playing time because he hasn't shown enough to take snaps away from an old and tired Tamba.
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I agree, but not trading up for Lynch and not getting a deal done with Berry were not "mistakes".

Not spending a draft pick on a box safety? Now that was a mistake, but hindsight is 20/20, and we still have one more offseason to get that guy.

Who knows? Maybe Shakiel Randolph is that guy. And maybe they intend on playing two ILB's (DJ and March) more often.
Do you really think they will run two ILB in their 34 based defense? That is really thinking outside the box.
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