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He wasn't a trained assassin or a former Navy Seal or a mercenary. He was a 48 year old dinged up man with arthritic hands and knees with scar tissue throughout his body. Another thing that's always been odd to me is the silence. Witnesses in Brentwood stated that their windows were open, which is common in Los Angeles and even more common the nearer you are to the ocean, yet all one witness heard was a dog barking? No vehicle speeding off into the night, no screams? |
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The prosecution was a joke, the judge was a joke, and the defense lawyers were the ring leaders. Total miscarriage of justice.
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Look, it's the job of the state -- which means cops/prosecutors -- to present the jury with a case that establishes that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Where the cops help CREATE a reasonable doubt, through their own stupidity, incompetence or outright improper conduct, they are undermining the ability to obtain a conviction, no matter how guilty the accused might ACTUALLY be. The system puts the onus on the state, as it should. And the state ****ed up royally. Would THAT jury at THAT point in time have acquitted him no matter how good the evidence was? Even if the cops were perfect? Sure, maybe, but we'll certainly never know becuase the cops made it pretty goddamn easy for a jury that was already inclined to acquit him to acquit him. Compare to Aaron Hernandez, where the evidence was completely circumstantial, and yet so overwhelming, and so meticulously and carefully presented to the jury, that they found him guilty despite Hernandez having truly excellent defense lawyers.
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But the short answer is to whatever extent allowed by law (and the cannons of professional responsibility). I think Cochran's close was acceptable. Scorched earth, yes, but as near as I can tell, nothing illegal, unethical or improper. Now if you look at Jose Baez's close in the Casey Anthony trial, it should have been grounds for prosecutors to request an immediate mis-trial and have the whole thing re-tried. Baez introduced facts and theories that had not been introduced as evidence; it was wholly inappropriate. Baez should've been sanctioned for that particular bit of horseshit. Cochran didn't do that, he just threw out a bunch of static and the jury failed to see through it. The best theory I've ever found for defending parties you're almost certain are guilty has nothing to do with the defendant but rather the system in general. As an adversarial system, is it absolutely imperative that each side receive the best, most complete defense possible. Guilty or not, our adversarial system operates at its highest only when all sides are being equally represented. If you are a defense attorney, you feel its your duty to the system to present your client with the absolute strongest defense possible. Because if you've done that, you've ensured that you have done everything in your power to ensure that the system runs at full stroke.
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The part that I wonder about is what is the "strongest defense possible"? Obviously, you don't want the state colluding with the defense, but, in Cochran's case, is invoking the Holocaust and directly comparing Fuhrman to Hitler during his close the responsibility of the jurors to see through? Can the prosecution object to bullshit like that presented during a close? Can the judge censure him?
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See? Pretty easy game to play. You know what you know and by God that's all you need know...
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Face it, if the prosecution and LAPD ****ed up as most of you say, was the jury supposed to convict anyway?
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No, if they hadn't "****ed up" as a lot of you admit, there would be no reason to think that. The trial was watched through a lot of different lenses. There will always be 2 Americas. |
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If they did not have reasonable doubt about his actual guilt.
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I don't know why everybody is bitchin anyway. If the case was so strong, why try to frame him even further? Van Nater admitting that he took a vial of blood from OJ when he turned himself in over to the scene? That shit isn't suspicious to you? Why would he do that shit?
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