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No one should believe Mark Furman jumped the fence without a warrant to make sure OJ was safe.
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Even with the verdict taking minutes, and the power salute to the defense team from a juror?
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They put a murdering psychopath back on the street because they were irritated at cops. Now if they actually felt like the evidence was all false and planted by the LAPD and as such, they couldn't trust any of the evidence, first and foremost they are stupid, but at least in that event, they haven't engaged in nullification. Your role as a juror is not to be a social activist. You are nothing more than a simple finder of fact. That's why verdict directors are almost kindergarten level in their breakdown. "If you believe that on X date, Y person killed victim, check this box and review Box B" Then box B will list off affirmative defenses that could justify the killing. Something else will lay out possible aggravating/mitigating factors. You have one goddamn job, jury. You are there to do nothing more than that one job and when you try to do so, the entire trial process - the crux of our legal system- falls apart.
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While I believe that OJ was either present at the murder or committed the murders himself, the defense did plenty, IMO, to convince the jury of reasonable doubt. While the blood evidence is compelling, the entire LAPD investigation was a complete and utter sham. You've got the first cop that arrived on the scene walking through the crime scene, going into the home and using the phone (something he didn't admit until on trial). You've got Fuhrman at the crime scene for nearly two hours, who then heads over to Rockingham, "finds a spot of blood" on the Bronco, jumps the wall and spends 15 minutes completely alone and isolated, in which he finds the matching bloody glove. And this was AFTER he removed as lead detective of the case and told to discontinue investigating until his superiors arrived. Then, he lies on the stand about using the "N" word, he lies about making outrageous racial claims in the company of reliable witnesses and of course, there's the tapes. Also, there's an infinitesimal amount of blood found in and on OJ's vehicle and one of his socks. Considering the amount of stab wounds and the gigantic pool of blood at Bundy, it doesn't seem reasonable to find a pin drop of OJ's blood. Add to that, the so-called "bloody clothes" were never recovered, neither was the murder weapon. What's also interesting is the reported timeline. One neighbor swears to hearing a dog barking at 10:25 to around midnight, another hears absolutely nothing and has a journal of the evening. I've done the drive from Bundy to Rockingham and it would be nearly impossible to make that drive in the 10 minutes that the defense estimated. Even more intriguing is the physical examination given by Dr. Robert Huizenga, who was the Los Angeles Raiders team physician and in recent years, has gained fame as the doctor on NBC's The Biggest Loser. Huizenga's physical took place over the course of two days. He noted massive inflammation of OJ's hands, knuckles and knees. He stated that OJ had a limp and would need a full knee replacement. While noting that his upper body was "well muscled", he noted that his joints and lower body showed scar tissue and injuries associated with professional football players. Basically, he described him as a gimp. I could go on and on and on about the case (and probably will!) but to a jury of eight African American women and a few mixed race men that weren't highly educated, it's easy to understand why they voted to acquit, racial issues aside. And the ironic thing is, which I've mentioned before, I was in a huge conference room on the Universal lot when the verdict was read and I think I was the only person in the room that was even remotely surprised that it was Not Guilty. |
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I get that there was a racial component at work here and that made the defense's job easier, but I still think the verdict was defensible.
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I still think the biggest issue was the novelty of DNA evidence. Nobody had a damn clue what they were talking about. I recall some of the post-trial interviews with jurors where they flat out said they disregarded it because it was too complicated. Like I said - if they flat out didn't think they could trust the evidence because of problems with the investigation, that's one thing. But if they were just looking to send a message (and there were definitely indications that they were), that's a miscarriage of justice.
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That site has several of the excerpts. While I agree that the blood evidence was likely way too complicated for the jurors to understand, the LAPD did such a horrific job of protecting the crime scene against contamination that regardless of the results, it's easy to dismiss it altogether. Additionally, to the this day, I have a very difficult time believing that OJ carried out the murders alone. Ron Goldman wasn't an old, tiny guy. He was young and physically fit. Unless he walked in after OJ killed Nicole, it's difficult to imagine that a 48 year old man in OJ's physical condition would only walk away with a nick on his middle knuckle. I'm not saying that it's impossible but it's difficult to believe he could pull that off, head home as quickly as the prosecution suggested, shower, get to the airport in time to make his flight and not crack. IMO, it just doesn't add up. From my perspective, in all likelihood, the LAPD framed a guilty man. |
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I'm short, fat, and out of shape. That said if I wanted to I could kill two much more fit people very quickly. The big problem with that is the amount of blood. It's impossible to think of everything. It's impossible to clean everything. On top of that it doesn't fit his personality. He's more likely to pay someone and not have to bother with it, while he watches, that do it himself.
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She's a juvenile delinquent?
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He was fine with hanging his friends out to dry, stealing his best friend's girlfriend, cheating with ferocity, lying constantly, all the while projecting an image of benign charm. If you look up the DSM's definition of a psychopath it's hard to find a clearer example than OJ Simpson.
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