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12-11-2015, 11:32 PM | #31 | |
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Was there any question that that's what would happen anyway? I'm more concerned with whether or not they'll try to include the Celestials in this one. |
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12-12-2015, 12:29 AM | #32 |
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12-12-2015, 01:00 AM | #33 |
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This looks okay, but I'm not getting a super thrilling vibe about it. I feel like it will be the standard X-Men level of good but not great. It also doesn't help that it will be coming out later in the same month as Captain America.
The thing I can't get past is how small Apocalypse looks. In the comics, he's a hulking enormous monster, but here he looks like a skinny guy in a spaceman suit. Even Robocop - who, under it all, was a skinny guy in a spaceman suit - looked more intimidating than Apocalypse does. Mohawk Storm looks good, though, and I'm glad they're getting away from every movie being The Wolverine Show. |
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12-12-2015, 01:07 AM | #34 |
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Nitpicky addendum: "Tens of thousands of years ago"? Only 5,000 years takes you back to before Egypt existed. 10,000 was the very beginnings of civilization. "Tens of thousands" of years would mean Apocalypse was at best a hunter-gatherer nomad, or maybe a straight-up caveman. I don't think that's the vibe they're going for.
Sorry, nitpick over. |
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12-12-2015, 02:28 AM | #35 | |
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12-12-2015, 03:17 AM | #36 |
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Tangent: I think we're eventually going to 'discover' that civilization has existed much longer than 5000 years. At some point the resistance of tenured historians to any timeline other than their established one will be overcome.
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12-12-2015, 04:16 AM | #37 |
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Many scientists believe that the erosion on the sphinx could have only been caused by rain fall and climate studies show that the amount of rain that it would have taken hasn't fallen in Egypt in over 10,000 years.
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12-12-2015, 04:19 AM | #38 | |
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12-12-2015, 01:46 PM | #39 | |
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There's also some interesting things being discovered at sites like Gobleki Tepe in Turkey and at a number of underwater locations like Yonaguni off the coast of Japan. My personal theory is that there was a cataclysm about 12k years ago which is the genesis of the flood myth found in so many religions (including the bible...) and oral histories, a cataclysm that destroyed an ancient civilization we know next to nothing about. Thanks to much of it currently being underwater. But it would be impossible to prove at this point, since so little of the ocean floor has actually been explored. In any case, this is a Marvel film. So they can create whatever the hell world history they want. |
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12-12-2015, 01:57 PM | #40 | |
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Same thing is true about the city of Ubar/Iram in Arabia. There was a city that was buried in the sands overnight but it had nothing to do with god but a sinkhole over a limestone cavern. |
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12-12-2015, 02:10 PM | #41 | |
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Although I also think we're very far off in terms of recognizing how well more traditionally 'ancient' civilizations from places like Africa and Asia were able to navigate the oceans, so perhaps myths were spread that way, as well. In which case histories from places like the Mediterranean may have spread culturally speaking. But again even acknowledging that possibility would require some revision of standard, tenured history. Which isn't likely to happen. |
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12-12-2015, 02:17 PM | #42 | |
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Take the Pacific Northwest. There were certainly permanent towns of natives who shared a common culture but there was no government above the town chieftain and the different towns often made war with each other. The Iroquois had a much more complex government but not as permanent towns. Of course the Central and South American civilizations dwarfed anything in North America when it came to being actual state level civilizations. |
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12-12-2015, 02:35 PM | #43 |
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I was talking about ships from classical Egypt and China reaching North America thousands of years ago, and the possibility/probability that there was ongoing trade between the continents. We talk about the oceans like they were barriers when they may have been roads, basically. In any case, I think it goes without saying at this point that the idea of Columbus 'discovering' America is a false narrative, and that it goes back thousands of years, as difficult as it may be for those of us in the western world to admit. Europe is not the center of everything....
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12-12-2015, 05:40 PM | #44 |
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12-12-2015, 06:14 PM | #45 |
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Please, continue. I think ancient civilizations are hella interesting.
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