****Official Kansas vs Michigan State - Champions Classic Game Thread****

[Lzen]

Game time: 9pm
Channel: ESPN

Let's go, KU!

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Sorry, but there's much more to basketball than being able to score (and the variety of ways he can do that doesn't change that). He remains a soft, one-dimensional pussy and the ship has long sailed on that changing.

How many players on the top 10 list of career rebounders at KU are terrible rebounders?

[lewdog]

Eat shit Beaker fans!!!

And Denzel Valentine says

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How many players on the top 10 list of career rebounders at KU are terrible rebounders?

I don't believe I ever called Perry Ellis a terrible rebounder (all I said was that Lucas was better than him in that area, which he is), but nice strawman.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Not going to disagree there.

But you're going to have to deal with the nonsense like that stretch where they got 5 OREB on one posession and 2 or 3 of them were his guy because he was incredibly slow on the blockout.

It would be frustrating for a while, but I'll still take that over watching Lucas or Traylor bring the entire team down again because they simply aren't good enough to play at this level. This needs to end differently than it did with Cliff last year.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't believe I ever called Perry Ellis a terrible rebounder (all I said was that Lucas was better than him in that area, which he is), but nice strawman.

No, you called the guy who will likely lead the team in scoring two years in a row and in rebounds three years in a row one dimensional.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't believe I ever called Perry Ellis a terrible rebounder (all I said was that Lucas was better than him in that area, which he is), but nice strawman.

Possible dimensions of a basketball player: 1) scoring 2) rebounding.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Perry isn't worthless, he's just a soft one-dimensional pussy.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No, you called the guy who will likely lead the team in scoring two years in a row and in rebounds three years in a row one dimensional.

No, what I actually called him was a soft, one-dimensional pussy (and it's telling enough that you only attempted to dispute the "one-dimensional" part of that statement ).

But just for you Saul, I suppose I can revise that to a soft, one-dimensional pussy who rebounds at a rate worse than the plodding, unathletic Landen Lucas.

[KC_Connection]

Perry Ellis has a career 14.1 Total Rebound %. In just the last 5 years of KU basketball, that ranks him below Thomas Robinson (22.2%), Joel Embiid (20.5%), Cole Aldrich (20.0%), Markieff Morris (18.3%), Tarik Black (16.8%), Cliff Alexander (16.8%), Landen Lucas (16.3%), Kevin Young (16.2%), Jeff Withey (15.4%), Marcus Morris (14.6%) and Hunter Mickelson (14.3%).

Oh man, we've got a regular Dennis Rodman on our hands here in Perry.

[BWillie]

For his size, Ellis is a bad rebounder. I dont know why people find this surprising.

[lewdog]

KC_Connection has no friends.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by lewdog

KC_Connection has no friends.

You sent me a positive rep last month saying I was an "OK dude." What's changed, man?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

For his size, Ellis is a bad rebounder. I dont know why people find this surprising.

With his great size and athleticism, he should been much better than he is at that. But yes, being who he is, it's not surprising at all.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Perry Ellis has a career 14.1 Total Rebound %. In just the last 5 years of KU basketball, that ranks him below Thomas Robinson (22.2%), Joel Embiid (20.5%), Cole Aldrich (20.0%), Markieff Morris (18.3%), Tarik Black (16.8%), Cliff Alexander (16.8%), Landen Lucas (16.3%), Kevin Young (16.2%), Jeff Withey (15.4%), Marcus Morris (14.6%) and Hunter Mickelson (14.3%).

Oh man, we've got a regular Dennis Rodman on our hands here in Perry.

The majority of those guys were taller and played a true 5. Really? Perry against Embiid, Aldrich, Withey, T-Rob, Mickelson, and Morris?

He may not be Rodman, and yes he's soft and can't defend, but you are talking shit on something that is far from the worst aspect of this team just to back up your angry ramblings, so don't be surprised when people call you out. And the fact that BWillie is backing you up doesn't speak very highly.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

With his great size and athleticism, he should been much better than he is at that. But yes, being who he is, it's not surprising at all.

Perry has neither great size nor athleticism. You must have him confused with Joel Embiid.

[KCCHIEFS27]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Not going to disagree there.

But you're going to have to deal with the nonsense like that stretch where they got 5 OREB on one posession and 2 or 3 of them were his guy because he was incredibly slow on the blockout.

I also saw a stretch where Bragg was trying to block out two people, diving for loose balls, and hustling when Lucas was standing around doing zilch with his arms to his side watching the ball. Sack Lucas, Bill. Please.