*** Official Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (5/1) ***

[alnorth]

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
DET (15-9)	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	4	2
KC (16-7)	3	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	X	4	10	0

The Royals had a combined no-hitter through 7IP, broken up with a single to left



Loss, (2-2) Kyle Lobstein 7⅓IP 4R 4ER 1BB 2K
Joba Chamberlain ⅔IP 0R 0ER 1BB 0K

VS.



Win, (2-0) Chris Young 5IP 0R 0ER 3BB 9K
Ryan Madson 2IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Kelvin Herrera 1IP 1R 1ER 2BB 1K
Save, (5) Wade Davis 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: TOR 4, CLE 9
Final: CWS 0, MIN 1

Starting Lineups

DET

1. Anthony Gose, CF
2. Ian Kinsler, 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
4. Victor Martinez, DH
5. J.D. Martinez, RF
6. Yoenis Cespedes, LF
7. Alex Avila, C
8. Nick Castellanos, 3B
9. Jose Iglesias, SS

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Mike Moustakas, 3B
3. Lorenzo Cain, CF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Kendrys Morales, DH
6. Salvador Perez, C
7. Omar Infante, 2B
8. Paulo Orlando, RF
9. Christian Colon, SS

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I mean seriously though, **** that. He was pitching a no-hitter. He has been a starter before. Let him pitch until he gives up a hit. He's a pro.

Umm, not this early in the season.. We need him for the long haul, and he was used to throwing limited number of pitches from relief.. Imagine if he went longer and threw out his arm in the 8th after giving up one hit..

Did an amazing job, period..

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I mean seriously though, **** that. He was pitching a no-hitter. He has been a starter before. Let him pitch until he gives up a hit. He's a pro.

Ned said before the game he wanted around 80 pitches. 81 through 5 innings and he just walked the bases loaded so he was obviously losing it a little bit. No way he could have lasted the whole game. Great outing though! Hope that pushes Vargas and Guthrie to step it up.

[007]

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Winning a suspension game is huge, especially with how Volquez was throwing so well.

Beating Detroit on a suspension game is huge. Hell, beating Detroit is huge.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I mean seriously though, **** that. He was pitching a no-hitter. He has been a starter before. Let him pitch until he gives up a hit. He's a pro.

He wasn't going to throw a complete game no matter what, so it doesn't matter. This team is too good to put a single player's potential accomplishment ahead of the team's best interests.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I mean seriously though, **** that. He was pitching a no-hitter. He has been a starter before. Let him pitch until he gives up a hit. He's a pro.

You must have learned your baseball from Trey Hillman. Remember him? He's the guy who destroyed Gil Meche's career by having him throw 132 pitches in a single game. Meche immediately started having back and shoulder problems. As soon as Meche was able to start again, that one who sucks the penis Hillman left him out on the mound AGAIN for well over 100 pitches. He did it as a big "**** You" to everyone who was blasting him at the time. He was trying to make a point and prove that pitch counts don't matter.

Trey Hillman destroyed Gil Meche's career. He was a good pitcher before that, and he was horrible after that. He retired because of his arm and back problems that began on that day. Trey Hillman should have been shot for that.

We need Chris Young. Let's not destroy his arm in the pursuit of a meaningless stat.

[Deberg_1990]

The Herrera/Cabrera battle in the 8th inning was pure awesome.


Baseball doesn't get much better than that

[Al Bundy]

[Prison Bitch]

1. Chris Young: 5ip 9k 0hits. Dayton's ouija board working overtime lately.

2. Colon's range isn't near what AE's is, but he's got great hands out there and he can make routine plays at SS. Wasn't sure he could - that play on Gose in the 8th was outstanding. Guys who can play both middle IF positions are very rare.

3. Infante continues to be a problem. His OPS is 600 and he went 66 AB without taking a single walk to open the year. The manager needs to have a chat with him about wasting so many AB. It's almost impossible that 66 straight times, the pitcher was able to avoid a walk. Not even Greg Maddux could pull that off. Needs to get his act together.

4. Herrera obv struggled in the 8th but I'll give him tons of credit for getting out of it. Those are 2 excellent hitters who could've won that game for them. He worked his ass off vs Cabrera and I'm glad he went nothing but fastball because he was almost guaranteed to walk him if he didn't. (Monty said after the game he's have gone changeup because walking him was better than letting him actually hit the ball - not sure i agree)

[Saul Good]

Nearly every SS can play second base. What's rare about that?

Agree on point 4. Jeff went full idiot there. You don't walk the lead run on base and the tying run into scoring position with Martinez on deck. Worst case scenario, Cabrera puts them up 1.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Nearly every SS can play second base. What's rare about that?

I don't believe that, and I wonder what your evidence is for that claim.


AE has never played 2B, no evidence he'd just walk over there and be good Day 1.

[tk13]

I remember a game where David Cone was coming off a DL stint and the Yankees pulled him out of no hitter because they didn't want to extend him too early. It's not unheard of.

Maybe Ned could've left Young in longer, but the reality is 40% of our starting rotation was suspended. We'll need Young to bail us out again in a few days.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I don't believe that, and I wonder what your evidence is for that claim.


AE has never played 2B, no evidence he'd just walk over there and be good Day 1.

2B requires less range and less arm strength. There's a reason he's never played 2B. He would be the best defensive 2B on the team right now by a mile if we wanted to put him there.

The only play that a 2B had to make that a SS doesn't is the pivot on the DP. I played second base for over a decade...and played it very well. I didn't have the range for SS, while every SS I ever played with could have filled in at 2B and done fine.

[Prison Bitch]

Young said post-game he was exhausted and was glad to come out. This is a nonstory obv

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

2B requires less range and less arm strength. There's a reason he's never played 2B. He would be the best defensive 2B on the team right now by a mile if we wanted to put him there.

The only play that a 2B had to make that a SS doesn't is the pivot on the DP. I played second base for over a decade...and played it very well. I didn't have the range for SS, while every SS I ever played with could have filled in at 2B and done fine.

I would fully agree SS is way tougher and they do move to 2B esp later in their career. However, my point was about a 2B moving the other way. I don't think Gio or Infante would ever be put out there.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by tk13

I remember a game where David Cone was coming off a DL stint and the Yankees pulled him out of no hitter because they didn't want to extend him too early. It's not unheard of.

Maybe Ned could've left Young in longer, but the reality is 40% of our starting rotation was suspended. We'll need Young to bail us out again in a few days.

Didn't we do that with Kevin Appier on opening day one year when Bob Boone was managing? I was at that game in high school, but my mind was less than sharp at the time.