News Cop mistakes his own gun for taser and shoots/kills suspect (Vid in Link) - Page 5

MikeMaslowski · 04-12-2015, 11:11 AM

Bodies are piling up. What say you? Was it an accident?

SEE IT: Video shows Tulsa man’s last moments alive after accidental police shooting (WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2181787

It was a mistake.

That’s the blasé explanation Oklahoma officials gave after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white deputy who accidentally pulled his gun when he meant to use his Taser.

The botched encounter was captured on a disturbing video released by police on Friday — nine days after the fatal Tulsa shooting.

“He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath,” Eric Harris says as he struggles on the ground following the April 2 shooting, which flew under the radar until video emerged a week later.

“F--- your breath,” a callous officer can be heard saying. “Shut the f--- up!”

Reserve Deputy Robert Bates, 73, (below) shouted “Taser! Taser!” before pulling the trigger on his gun, firing a round into Harris.

“I shot him!” the former policeman says, dropping his gun. “I’m sorry.”

Bates was assisting other deputies who were trying to take Harris into custody after the felon fled from police during a sting operation, the Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office’s said.

“You shouldn’t have f-----g ran!” another deputy screams, as Harris is held down by his neck and head.

Harris, who was in his 40s, was pronounced dead about an hour after the shooting, authorities said.

He had bolted from officers who were trying to arrest him for selling a 9 mm. semiautomatic pistol and ammunition to undercover cops.

Harris, who was unarmed, had reportedly done time for assault and battery on an officer.

He was “absolutely a threat when going down,” Tulsa Police Sgt. Jim Clark said at a news conference.

Sheriff’s Capt. Billy McKelvey claims the arresting officers were not aware Harris had been shot, despite the gunshot noise and Bates’ admission. They called paramedics and firefighters, and rendered aid when they realized, McKelvey said.

“He made an inadvertent mistake,” McKelvey said.

Sgt. Dave Walker told the Tulsa World that police “would not investigate the death unless the sheriff’s office asked them to, and they have not asked us to.”

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc

ahh but its implied. By stating that its not murder but not offering up an alternative charge it implies that no crime was committed.

By stating that its an 'accident,' it implies that the individual should not face criminal reprecussions.

I'm just trying to cut through all the bullshit.

That's bullshit.

If I am driving, get distracted, run a red light, and kill someone, that is an accident. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't be charged with vehicular manslaughter.

Nobody in this thread said that there wasn't a crime committed and nobody implied that either.

planetdoc · 04-12-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

I do have a problem with his character and compassion as a human, when he tells someone "**** your breath" in their dying moments.

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Originally Posted by john wooden

Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are

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Originally Posted by john wooden

The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching.

The character of this individual is now abundantly clear. This person should not be in a position where he has the power over another. Unfortunately he has know exposed himself and his family to vigilante justice. Every action has a reaction. He wont know whether that reaction is today or 20yrs from now. He wont know if the last thing he hears before he dies or his loved one dies is, '**** your breath.'

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

What about these assholes?

The only comment I have an issue with is "**** your breath".

planetdoc · 04-12-2015, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Nobody in this thread said that there wasn't a crime committed and nobody implied that either.

So then, lets be clear: Are you stating that the shooter commited a crime and should face jail time?

Brock · 04-12-2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I don't think it can be murder if you can't prove malice.

This is nothing like the SC shooting.

"**** your breath" no, not malicious at all

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

This was an obvious accident. The old man shouldn't have been there, but it's pretty obvious from the video that he didn't mean to shoot the guy. He should do some jail time for manslaughter

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Originally Posted by planetdoc

So then, lets be clear: Are you stating that the shooter commited a crime and should face jail time?

Reading isn't your strong suit, huh?

Brock · 04-12-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

The shooting in this case was an accident, you moron. The idiot who said "**** your breath" wasn't the guy who pulled the trigger.

Sure! This wasn't a gang of like minded individuals beating the shit out of somebody then killing him! Just an accident. You gullible ****ing sheep.

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

"**** your breath" no, not malicious at all

Holy shit! The shooter wasn't the one who said "**** your breath". Are you reeruned?

Sully · 04-12-2015, 05:40 PM

Maybe, and this idea is out there, but stay with me... Just maybe the feel and grip of a taster should be WAY ****ING DIFFERENT from a ****ING GUN!!!

Jesus, it seems like it was just a few years ago we were talking about cops overusing their tasers. Now I ****ing long for those days of just mere torture and possible death at the hands of dipshits, rather than just pure attempted murder.

planetdoc · 04-12-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Reading isn't your strong suit, huh?

my mistake. I missed that post. looks like we agree.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-12-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

"**** your breath" no, not malicious at all

Did the shooter say that?

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Sure! This wasn't a gang of like minded individuals beating the shit out of somebody then killing him! Just an accident. You gullible ****ing sheep.

The only person to fire their weapon was an old man who shouldn't have been there in the first place. He mistakenly grabbed his taser instead of his gun. It was stupid, but not intentional.

The only other part of this situation that was wrong was the officer telling the guy "**** your breath". That was also stupid and he should be disciplined for it.

Pitt Gorilla · 04-12-2015, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

The only comment I have an issue with is "**** your breath".

You think the other comments were helpful? Useful? Professional? Help me out here.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-12-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Maybe, and this idea is out there, but stay with me... Just maybe the feel and grip of a taster should be WAY ****ING DIFFERENT from a ****ING GUN!!!
.

I don't know what taser he had but these grips look similar.

And remember, the guy is 73.

Absolutely could be an honest mistake.

Doesn't completely exonerate him, either.

**LoneWolf** · 04-12-2015, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You think the other comments were helpful? Useful? Professional? Help me out here.

Let's be real here. The guy was a convicted felon who had just tried to sell a gun and ammo to an undercover police officer. He then led the police on a chase. I can understand in the moment telling him to "shut the **** up" and also telling him "you shouldn't have ran". Maybe not 100% professional, but understandable in the moment.

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MikeMaslowski There's always next year. Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10009290	Cop mistakes his own gun for taser and shoots/kills suspect (Vid in Link) Bodies are piling up. What say you? Was it an accident? SEE IT: Video shows Tulsa man’s last moments alive after accidental police shooting (WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT) http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2181787 It was a mistake. That’s the blasé explanation Oklahoma officials gave after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white deputy who accidentally pulled his gun when he meant to use his Taser. The botched encounter was captured on a disturbing video released by police on Friday — nine days after the fatal Tulsa shooting. “He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath,” Eric Harris says as he struggles on the ground following the April 2 shooting, which flew under the radar until video emerged a week later. “F--- your breath,” a callous officer can be heard saying. “Shut the f--- up!” Reserve Deputy Robert Bates, 73, (below) shouted “Taser! Taser!” before pulling the trigger on his gun, firing a round into Harris. “I shot him!” the former policeman says, dropping his gun. “I’m sorry.” Bates was assisting other deputies who were trying to take Harris into custody after the felon fled from police during a sting operation, the Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office’s said. “You shouldn’t have f-----g ran!” another deputy screams, as Harris is held down by his neck and head. Harris, who was in his 40s, was pronounced dead about an hour after the shooting, authorities said. He had bolted from officers who were trying to arrest him for selling a 9 mm. semiautomatic pistol and ammunition to undercover cops. Harris, who was unarmed, had reportedly done time for assault and battery on an officer. He was “absolutely a threat when going down,” Tulsa Police Sgt. Jim Clark said at a news conference. Sheriff’s Capt. Billy McKelvey claims the arresting officers were not aware Harris had been shot, despite the gunshot noise and Bates’ admission. They called paramedics and firefighters, and rendered aid when they realized, McKelvey said. “He made an inadvertent mistake,” McKelvey said. Sgt. Dave Walker told the Tulsa World that police “would not investigate the death unless the sheriff’s office asked them to, and they have not asked us to.”
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Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	Maybe, and this idea is out there, but stay with me... Just maybe the feel and grip of a taster should be WAY **ING DIFFERENT from a ING GUN!!! Jesus, it seems like it was just a few years ago we were talking about cops overusing their tasers. Now I **ing long for those days of just mere torture and possible death at the hands of dipshits, rather than just pure attempted murder. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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