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Old 02-26-2015, 12:43 PM  
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Down goes Fasano
@NFL_RealUpdates: #Chiefs are releasing veteran TE Anthony Fasano, per @JeffDarlington
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:22 PM   #106
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I dont even really care about his recovery, tbh. He's got 1 year left under contract, he's currently injured, and not a part of the future of this team. He's the type of roster spot you give to a younger guy.
and who would that be? Mauga? a FA? a rookie?
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and who would that be? Mauga? a FA? a rookie?
Sure?

If cutting DJ means we keep Hudson... Every. day. of. the. week.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:27 PM   #108
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Sure?

If cutting DJ means we keep Hudson... Every. day. of. the. week.
I don't see DJ as holdup for keeping Hudson. What are you gonna save/gain to cut DJ and his $5.25M, draft/sign someone else at what number and what production?
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:28 PM   #109
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I don't see DJ as holdup for keeping Hudson. What are you gonna save/gain to cut DJ and his $5.25M, draft/sign someone else at what number and what production?
Every penny of the Chiefs current cap space is going to go to Houston. They are going to need to cut more players, and some higher paid players at that.

Hali and DJ top that list of higher paid players. Bowe would be option #3 for me. People saying that you can easily replace his production are trying to compare his production with Alex Smith to that of Randall Cobb with Aaron Rodgers. It's dumb. Bowe was what? 200% more productive than any other receiver on the team? They've already cut 2 of their shit corp. They can't afford to cut Bowe without some kind of guarantee of a FA coming to the Chiefs.

You can cut Hali because you already made the choice to replace him last draft. You can cut DJ because you just played a whole ****ing season without him and did fairly well.
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Sure?

If cutting DJ means we keep Hudson... Every. day. of. the. week.
Isn't DJ pretty cheap? Maybe I'm misremembering.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:32 PM   #111
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Every penny of the Chiefs current cap space is going to go to Houston. They are going to need to cut more players, and some higher paid players at that.
Not true. Signing bonus can lower base salary. Houston will get a chunk, but a big bonus gives him what he wants and keeps us relatively cap friendly.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:33 PM   #112
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Isn't DJ pretty cheap? Maybe I'm misremembering.
He's like 5.5M or something like that. He's one of the higher hits on the cap. His number would be just a little bit less than what Hudson is probably going to get per year.
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Not true. Signing bonus can lower base salary. Houston will get a chunk, but a big bonus gives him what he wants and keeps us relatively cap friendly.
The Chiefs have shit for cap space dude. Houston is going to get a HUGE contract.
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I kind of liked Fasano. His touchdown catch against the Cardinals got us into the playoffs last season.
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The Chiefs have shit for cap space dude. Houston is going to get a HUGE contract.
Again, a huge signing bonus keeps the cap number down.
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Again, a huge signing bonus keeps the cap number down.
So are you going to give him a $40M check or something?
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Again, a huge signing bonus keeps the cap number down.
What really keeps the cap number down is back-loading the hell out of a deal. A huge signing bonus screws you for future restructure and cap flexibility.
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At the end of the day the Chiefs are probably going to have to tag Houston which will put them like $5M over the cap and need to clear that space in 8 days. Cutting ****s like Fasano and saving a couple million isn't going to cut it.
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What really keeps the cap number down is back-loading the hell out of a deal. A huge signing bonus screws you for future restructure and cap flexibility.
That's why you make sure you want that player long term. Yes, your way will work, as well, but to keep the vase salary down long term, the big bonus works best. Your way, makes said player's cap number INCREASE, making it more difficult to retain other players.
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That's why you make sure you want that player long term. Yes, your way will work, as well, but to keep the vase salary down long term, the big bonus works best. Your way, makes said player's cap number INCREASE, making it more difficult to retain other players.
I'm not sure you get it.

The Chiefs have around $8M in space?

Aaron Rodgers got $33M in cash as a signing bonus 3 years ago. His year 1 cap was $11M. Now Houston wont get as much money as Rodgers but it will maybe be only $10-20 million less. The prorated money of a bonus like that basically covers the cap space the Chiefs have so it doesnt really matter how low his base salary is year 1.
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