Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2014, 09:52 AM  
OldSchool OldSchool is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Casino cash: $10035212
Let's talk WRs

Who's your top ranked receiver right now?

For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.

What's wrong with Sammy Coates?

The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?

Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?

There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?

Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?

Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.

Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?

Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.

Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?
Posts: 12,727
OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 11:32 AM   #151
Saccopoo Saccopoo is offline
Kindness in words...
 
Saccopoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zion
Casino cash: $10025483
Jesus...

I totally forgot about this guy because he's played on an absolutely horrible team, but he's been a freaking terror all year long:

Vince Mayle

Anybody wanting a guy like Devin White or Jaleen Strong or Devante Parker needs to take a serious look at this dude.

6'3", 220 lbs.

1483 yards, 9 TDs

Two games over 250 yards.

Dude has been an absolute beast all year with total crap around him. Nobody has shut him down all year. Utah's crushed WR all year and he put up 120 on them.

Huge, muscular dude with burst.





1 2014-08-28 Washington State N Rutgers 12 124 10.3 1
2 2014-09-05 Washington State @ Nevada 8 86 10.8 1
3 2014-09-13 Washington State Portland State 5 35 7.0 1
4 2014-09-20 Washington State Oregon 7 75 10.7 0
5 2014-09-27 Washington State @ Utah W 8 120 15.0 2
6 2014-10-04 Washington State California 11 263 23.9 1
7 2014-10-10 Washington State @ Stanford 6 78 13.0 1
8 2014-10-25 Washington State Arizona 14 145 10.4 1
9 2014-11-01 Washington State USC 9 83 9.2 0
10 2014-11-08 Washington State @ Oregon State 6 143 23.8 1
11 2014-11-22 Washington State @ Arizona State 15 252 16.8 0
12 2014-11-29 Washington State Washington 5 79 15.8 0

Quote:
The best-kept secret on the West Coast has been squarely on the radar of scouts since the beginning of the season. Evaluators are fascinated by the long-term potential of the 6-3, 219-pound senior. Mayle is a big-bodied pass catcher with outstanding ball skills who has grown into a legitimate No. 1 receiver in the Cougars' passing game. Against Arizona State, Mayle snagged 15 passes for 252 yards while displaying impressive athleticism, explosiveness and leaping ability. Mayle's ability to win 50-50 balls on the perimeter makes him an intriguing option for a team desperately looking for a big-bodied athlete to use on jump balls in the red zone. Considering the impact big, athletic receivers are making in today's game, Mayle's size and talent could make him a fast riser on draft boards during the pre-draft process.

Last edited by Saccopoo; 12-30-2014 at 11:37 AM..
Posts: 15,450
Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 11:43 AM   #152
Dunerdr Dunerdr is offline
MVP
 
Dunerdr's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Casino cash: $-910000
Titus Davis. In rd 2. Because moar central michigan.
__________________
Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
Posts: 11,692
Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.Dunerdr is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 05:43 PM   #153
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $326403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo View Post
Jesus...

I totally forgot about this guy because he's played on an absolutely horrible team, but he's been a freaking terror all year long:

Vince Mayle

Anybody wanting a guy like Devin White or Jaleen Strong or Devante Parker needs to take a serious look at this dude.
Agree Sac... I've been thinking about and watching alot of him lately. He's really grown since last season. The dude is a legitimate sleeper to be one of the best receivers in this draft. I've been hesitant to mock him yet, but he's up on the radar.
Posts: 12,761
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 07:01 PM   #154
Sandy Vagina Sandy Vagina is offline
Still Got The Blues (For You)
 
Sandy Vagina's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2013
Casino cash: $10014178
dayum... that's a full grown man right there. Gets any bigger, he will need to be a TE hybrid. Looked pretty good.. another thickly talented draft for WRs. Don't snub em this time, Dorsey.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by a brilliant vag
Good luck to Pat and the Chiefs!
Posts: 16,482
Sandy Vagina has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 07:06 PM   #155
jonzie04 jonzie04 is offline
MVP
 
jonzie04's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Casino cash: $5716817
Pretty impressed with Mayle, I'm pretty surprised by his route running skills. That was a beautiful dig route at 1:10. He sold the post pretty nice there. I love the way he uses his hands too to create that extra bit of separation and to get off the press. I'd love to have him in the second. Nice stuff.
Posts: 6,779
jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 07:48 PM   #156
Sandy Vagina Sandy Vagina is offline
Still Got The Blues (For You)
 
Sandy Vagina's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2013
Casino cash: $10014178
oooooh nice... fall a little bit further, Devante Parker, lol.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by a brilliant vag
Good luck to Pat and the Chiefs!
Posts: 16,482
Sandy Vagina has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2015, 04:55 PM   #157
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $409611
If there is one WR I would put money on KC drafting, it's Sammie Coates. He is everything this organization looks for.

Amazing speed and strength. High potential but will need to develop. Can block and take any pass to the house on screens.

That picks screams John Dorsey to me.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,312
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2015, 05:36 PM   #158
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $326403
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
If there is one WR I would put money on KC drafting, it's Sammie Coates. He is everything this organization looks for.

Amazing speed and strength. High potential but will need to develop. Can block and take any pass to the house on screens.

That picks screams John Dorsey to me.
I'm really leery of Coates. Awesome potential, grossly lacking production. I'd take him in round 3 or 4.
Posts: 12,761
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 12:05 AM   #159
OldSchool OldSchool is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Casino cash: $10035212
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
If there is one WR I would put money on KC drafting, it's Sammie Coates. He is everything this organization looks for.

Amazing speed and strength. High potential but will need to develop. Can block and take any pass to the house on screens.

That picks screams John Dorsey to me.
His hands are made of bricks and his ball skills are average at best. He's basically the Vernon Davis of WRs.
Posts: 12,727
OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.OldSchool has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 10:17 AM   #160
the Talking Can the Talking Can is offline
Supporter
 
the Talking Can's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: street
Casino cash: $10012208
fer shits and giggles, how would you rank the the top 10-12 wrs from 2014 and 2015 prospects (1-20)? Obviously the 2014 class having a year in the nfl will skew things (like no one thought Beckham would instantly be the most electrifying wr in the league)

2014 (drafted in first two rounds):

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Odell Beckham Jr.
Brandin Cooks
Kelvin Benjamin
Marqise Lee
Jordan Matthews
Paul Richardson
Davante Adams
Cody Latimer
Allen Robinson
Jarvis Landry

2015 WR board from GBN:

Amari Cooper
Davante Parker
Kevin White
Jaelen Strong
Devin Funchess
Dorial Geen-Beckham
Sammie Coates
Ty Montgomery
Nelson Agholor
Rashad Greene
Deontay Greenberry
Josh Harper
Tyler Lockett


would Cooper come in 4th behind Beckham Jr?

feels like the top of 2014 is (much) better, but a stretch of 2015 would run in the middle from like 5-10
__________________
Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
Posts: 51,585
the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 12:27 PM   #161
jonzie04 jonzie04 is offline
MVP
 
jonzie04's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Casino cash: $5716817
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can View Post
fer shits and giggles, how would you rank the the top 10-12 wrs from 2014 and 2015 prospects (1-20)? Obviously the 2014 class having a year in the nfl will skew things (like no one thought Beckham would instantly be the most electrifying wr in the league)

2014 (drafted in first two rounds):

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Odell Beckham Jr.
Brandin Cooks
Kelvin Benjamin
Marqise Lee
Jordan Matthews
Paul Richardson
Davante Adams
Cody Latimer
Allen Robinson
Jarvis Landry

2015 WR board from GBN:

Amari Cooper
Davante Parker
Kevin White
Jaelen Strong
Devin Funchess
Dorial Geen-Beckham
Sammie Coates
Ty Montgomery
Nelson Agholor
Rashad Greene
Deontay Greenberry
Josh Harper
Tyler Lockett


would Cooper come in 4th behind Beckham Jr?

feels like the top of 2014 is (much) better, but a stretch of 2015 would run in the middle from like 5-10
Cooper is probably on par with Evans and Watkins. I think those 3 are interchangeable depending on who the team likes. Cris Carter said Cooper was Bamas best Wr since Ozzie Newsome (That includes Julio Jones), and is the most advanced young WR he's seen since Randy Moss.

I'd say
1.Amari Cooper
2.Sammy Watkins
3. Evans
4. Dorial Green Beckham
5. Odell Beckham
6. Davante Parker
7. Kevin White
8. Brandin Cooks
9. Kelvin Benjamin
10. Marquise Lee
Posts: 6,779
jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 09:52 PM   #162
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $409611
Can't see how Tyler Lockett is there at our pick in rd 3. He's probably going to move into rd 2. His tape is so good and his skills are there. He'll blow up the combine and his stock will shoot up.

Would love this kid in rd 2.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,312
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 10:17 PM   #163
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $454734
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
Can't see how Tyler Lockett is there at our pick in rd 3. He's probably going to move into rd 2. His tape is so good and his skills are there. He'll blow up the combine and his stock will shoot up.

Would love this kid in rd 2.
Yeah. Kid's got skills.
Posts: 58,014
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2015, 12:58 AM   #164
GloucesterChief GloucesterChief is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Casino cash: $26454
As a WSU fan.

Mayle dropped a lot of passes the last four games. Has hands of stone when it gets a little nippy.
Posts: 12,936
GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.GloucesterChief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2015, 01:01 AM   #165
jonzie04 jonzie04 is offline
MVP
 
jonzie04's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Casino cash: $5716817
I know he isn't a sexy ultra fast WR or any thing but Man i love Tony Lippett, that guy is so such a great football player, just a great teammate, clutch, insanely reliable. I'd love to have him. He played both CB and WR vs Baylor, turned in 5 grabs for 75 yards, made a clutch catch on 4th down with less than a minute to go in the game, did an amazing job at cb, batting down a pass, and not allowing any plays over 20 yards. (pretty impressive against baylor)

And then theres the hit im sure you've all seen.

https://vine.co/v/OwVVed7ZHtp
Posts: 6,779
jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.jonzie04 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:41 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.