how shady or legit is the NFL ?

[Crying Ramtard]

http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

http://thefixisin.net/nfl.html

I'm not betting my farm on how true this is but it makes a lot of sense to me. The NFL is an entertainment business and can bend a games outcome when they so choose.

So during a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the San Diego Chargers the Steelers were favored by 3. Nearly 70 percent of the betting public was on Pittsburgh, with a reported $100 million in potential earnings. The score with less than a minute to go, 11-10 Pittsburgh and SD with the ball. After an errant lateral gets knocked away by Troy Polamalu, he scoops it and scores. The score is now 17-10, there is no time left, all teams head to the locker room, fans go to cash their tickets.

After several minutes of debate, the refs overturn the call, restoring a meaningless TD off the board making the final score 11-10, the Steelers win, the public loses. What I found to be most odd about it is the league's explanation of a "forward pass". The pass was ruled forward although it is obvious it was a backwards lateral. When I got home, I starting thinking that things were just to good to be true.

Sportscenter reported the money lost in Vegas and almost joked about it. They were literally laughing. So after this bad beat, I held around some serious thoughts about the legitimacy of pro football.

An opportunity came up in my graduate school where I was to write my project on any topic I was to choose. So I chose researching the "Showbiz manipulations of the NFL". I picked up several books including Dan Moldea's "Interference: How Organized Crimes Influence Professional Football", Brian Touhy's "The Fix Is In" , Roger L. Martins "Fixing the Game". I checked out several TV Marketing books from the college library and also several TV Business books.

I utilized my rights under the Freedom of Information Act passed by President Lyndon Johnson in 1966 to access over 40 years of FBI files on the NFL although some information was redacted. Here's what I found:

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Contrary to popular belief and to what he NFL wants you to think, there have been fixed games in league history. On page 308 of Dan Moldea's book "Interference" he lists over 70 NFL games that have been fixed and includes the names of the 2 referees involved in fixing those games. He also lists interviews with NFL HOF players most notably KC Chiefs QB Len Dawson. He, in detail with documented facts supported by FBI documents, has interviews with NFL players and known gambling associates to uncover massive game fixing in the league. He also notes, with evidence, throughout the book that no fewer than 26 NFL team owners have or have had continuous and developing relationships with the gambling world, most notably the Rooney, Bidwill, and Mara families all getting their starts as Bookmakers for established mid-west crime families and buying their NFL franchises with moneys earned from gambling. So that in and of itself is a hypocrisy number 1 on the NFL's "lilly white" reputation.

NFL Referees are part-time employees of the NFL. They are not employees of any team nor do they get paid anywhere close to the sums of NBA refs. NFL refs make between $25K to $70K per season. They work for the league and do what the league tells them to do. They are not there for "the integrity of the game". Referees, unlike other sports, are bound by NFL mandated gag orders which prevent them from talking to the media.

2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.

The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.

Robert Kraft and John Mara are two of the most business savvy and highly respected NFL owners. Kraft is in charge of the NFL TV broadcast committee and also leads all television negotiations for the NFL. Kraft also is on the board of directors for Viacom, the parent company of CBS, one of NFL's broadcasters. This past Spring, Robert Kraft negotiated a record TV deal for the NFL which will result in $24 Billion in revenue with CBS, FOX, ESPN and NBC. Kraft and Mara also brought both parties to the table and led all negotiations in ending the lockout.

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank was interviewed saying "It is predetermined that these two teams would be here, I wish my team was selected to be in the Super Bowl one day, but these two gentlemen deserve it". And the Giants posted themselves as victors before the game, the NFL claimed it was "an overzealous employee".

The 49ers need a new stadium, with the same players as Mike Singletary, and a Alex Smith in a contract year, the 49ers post a 13-3 record and make it to the NFC Championship. But what they don't tell you is how the stadium deal is structured. 80% of the funding comes from Bank of America and US Bank. 20% financed by the State of California using tax dollars.

The 49ers have pledged to pay back the State in 5 seasons with help from revenue sharing from NFL owners. What better way to pay someone back quickly than with packed stadiums and extra playoff game revenue.

On MNF they found themselves in a blackout. Steelers safety Ryan Clark said "it was to show the league they need a new stadium and the 49ers caused the blackout". Why would he say this if shadiness wasn't common practice? You can view his opinions here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...off-his-rocker.

Ravens players complained that the 2007 Patriots were " being handed games by refs" in their quest for perfection. And I have over 40 years of information on NFL business dealings and how these owners "miraculously" found themselves holding the Lombardi Trophy.

Let's look at the 2011 season and see how television ratings connected with some of the league's most important games, and quickly view how the referees controlled games.

Week 1: NFL Announces ESPN will pay $1billion per game of MNF through the 2021 season. In a tribute to 9/11 20 million + viewers tuned in as the Jets mounted a magic 14 point comeback over the Cowboys. Number of penalties called the Jets = 0

Week 2: The NFL's rule changes make for a more exciting game as scoring is way up. Much like the AFL days of the 60's, 72% of the games went over the total and TV ratings are now through the roof. The league emphasises "the year of the QB".

Week 3: Packers vs Bears: The Bears return a punt return for a TD which would've ultimately allowed them to cover the spread. Instead a fantom holding call overturned the TD. It was the 10th penalty of the game for the Bears vs. 1 penalty for the Packers. You can see the play here: http://youtu.be/_w-pXfjbYHk

Week 6: The Beginning of the Tim Tebow Era. Tim Tebow has a HUGE, and I mean HUGE Christian following. The guy can't hit a barn, but a decent athlete. Yet as the third string QB he is thrust into the starting role and the team magically "changes the entire offense" in a matter of weeks to suit him? Tebow was the number 1 jersey seller for the league without even stepping foot on the field. It was time to make him a star and they did ripping off several "magical" victories with poultry statistics. These teams were handing them games. If you didn't notice this, all I need to say it two words : Marion Barber. All the while the NFL is forcing religion down our throats with God's quarterback.

Week 7: The Jags are close to a sale, the possible new owners just need one more hint of encouragement to prevent buyers remorse. In come the Ravens. After the Saints destruction of the Colts on SNF. Vegas was in trouble. ESPN was in trouble because no one was going to watch this snore fest. The Ravens didn't get a first down until late in the fourth quarter and the Jags win with 4 FG's. Sale complete, Vegas wins. You lose.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

yes you do.

You truly are an idiot. As Hootie pointed out, making a claim and then saying it must be true because we can't prove it wrong is completely illogical and could be used for ANYTHING. You claim you have deductive reasoning, but this alone proves you don't, and the fact that you don't even understand why proves you are stupid.

Here are some examples showing why your statement is illogical and stupid and could be used to "prove" anything:

Oprah Winfrey assassinated JFK. You can't prove she didn't.

The moon is made of green cheese. You can't prove it isn't.

Fairies wear boots. You can't prove they don't.

Jimmy Page played all the guitar on Jimi Hendrix' albums. You can't prove he didn't.

Barack Obama is the illegitimate son of James Brown and Martha Stewart. You can't prove he isn't.

See what I am saying here? Or are you really that stupid?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I allege that you don't understand what an allegation is.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by splatbass

You truly are an idiot. As Hootie pointed out, making a claim and then saying it must be true because we can't prove it wrong is completely illogical and could be used for ANYTHING. You claim you have deductive reasoning, but this alone proves you don't, and the fact that you don't even understand why proves you are stupid.

Here are some examples showing why your statement is illogical and stupid and could be used to "prove" anything:

Oprah Winfrey assassinated JFK. You can't prove she didn't.

The moon is made of green cheese. You can't prove it isn't.

Fairies wear boots. You can't prove they don't.

Jimmy Page played all the guitar on Jimi Hendrix' albums. You can't prove he didn't.

Barack Obama is the illegitimate son of James Brown and Martha Stewart. You can't prove he isn't.

See what I am saying here? Or are you really that stupid?

I explained to you how mine was valid. Pay very close attention.. I said I gave a cause and effect. All you did was see a guy catch a ball and assume its not staged.
It has nothing to do with your stupid oprah example. You have no facts and no evidence that its not staged other than an assumption. You really need some reality and logic training.

you've never heard what coaches say in their headsets and assume its football strategy. You have no idea whats being told to the QB and LB in their helmets. You assume a lot about what you watch on tv with no understanding how it works. Your examples have nothing to with what we are talking about.

you are trying to say that because you said 'yellow' after I said 'green', you countered my argument. It doesn't work that way. Until you can tell me exactly what they do to film and orchestrate their games in a spontaneous fashion, you have no proof its done the way you think it is other than faith.

you don't know the difference between a lie and a fact.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I allege that you don't understand what an allegation is.

nor do I care because defining that word wont prove games aren't staged : )

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

I explained to you how mine was valid. Pay very close attention.. I said I gave a cause and effect. All you did was see a guy catch a ball and assume its not staged.
It has nothing to do with your stupid oprah example. You have no facts and no evidence that its not staged other than an assumption. You really need some reality and logic training.

you've never heard what coaches say in their headsets and assume its football strategy. You have no idea whats being told to the QB and LB in their helmets. You assume a lot about what you watch on tv with no understanding how it works. Your examples have nothing to with what we are talking about.

you are trying to say that because you said 'yellow' after I said 'green', you countered my argument. It doesn't work that way. Until you can tell me exactly what they do to film and orchestrate their games in a spontaneous fashion, you have no proof its done the way you think it is other than faith.

you don't know the difference between a lie and a fact.

You should never lecture anyone on reality or logic, two things you have no experience with. In a battle of wits you are an unarmed man.

As far as the highlighted part, just because I have not heard what coaches say it does not mean that they are rigging the games. In the absence of evidence to the contrary I have to go with the assumption that they aren't using the headsets to choreograph fake plays. This is the reasonable and logical thing to do.

Do you seriously think that because we can't hear what they are talking about in the headsets it proves they are fixing games? Really?

[Jimmya]

Might as well believe in Space Aliens, lol

[durtyrute]

It's nice to see the drama being set up with us and San Diego.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

It's nice to see the drama being set up with us and San Diego.

Just hope the league remembers how the Chargers "won" last year week 17...

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by splatbass

You should never lecture anyone on reality or logic, two things you have no experience with. In a battle of wits you are an unarmed man.

As far as the highlighted part, just because I have not heard what coaches say it does not mean that they are rigging the games. In the absence of evidence to the contrary I have to go with the assumption that they aren't using the headsets to choreograph fake plays. This is the reasonable and logical thing to do.

Do you seriously think that because we can't hear what they are talking about in the headsets it proves they are fixing games? Really?

it proves you have no evidence of facts you assume is/are taking place.

because you have never heard it,it does in fact mean that you do not know and cant prove it.

you know what they say about 'assume' baby

[Baby Lee]

HOW IN THE **** IS THIS STILL A THING?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

it proves you have no evidence of facts you assume is/are taking place.

because you have never heard it,it does in fact mean that you do not know and cant prove it.

you know what they say about 'assume' baby

You can turn this around and use it towards your arguments about it being rigged as well.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by splatbass

You truly are an idiot. As Hootie pointed out, making a claim and then saying it must be true because we can't prove it wrong is completely illogical and could be used for ANYTHING. You claim you have deductive reasoning, but this alone proves you don't, and the fact that you don't even understand why proves you are stupid.

Here are some examples showing why your statement is illogical and stupid and could be used to "prove" anything:

Oprah Winfrey assassinated JFK. You can't prove she didn't.

The moon is made of green cheese. You can't prove it isn't.

Fairies wear boots. You can't prove they don't.

Jimmy Page played all the guitar on Jimi Hendrix' albums. You can't prove he didn't.

Barack Obama is the illegitimate son of James Brown and Martha Stewart. You can't prove he isn't.

See what I am saying here? Or are you really that stupid?

I ****ed Kate Upton. You can't prove I didn't.

[TimBone]

I think we should make that a rumor. Spread the word.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You can turn this around and use it towards your arguments about it being rigged as well.

Which is what's hilarious. We can't prove Carson was injured, and he can't prove Carson isn't injured. All we know is that Carson left the field, in obvious pain, and we were told by medical doctors he tore his ACL.

Yet, we're simpletons because we're only believing what we're told instead of just assuming it was a fake injury because the NFL is making a lot of money.

It's amazing logic.

No one can prove anything so Oprah Winfrey assassinated JFK and Carson Palmer faked an injury so that the New York Giants could make the playoffs ... oh wait

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by TimBone

I ****ed Kate Upton. You can't prove I didn't.

You're a simpleton, Kate Upton only ****s vegan helicopter instructors. You can't prove otherwise, the media portrays her as a sex symbol because that's what they want you to believe. In reality, she doesn't wipe her ass after she shits