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Old 12-01-2014, 02:03 PM   #1
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Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.
LOL... Which teams have it worse? Name them all.
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LOL... Which teams have it worse? Name them all.
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The remaining 4 according to FO:

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The remaining 4 according to FO:

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FO won't be updated until Tues/Wed.. I'd bet the Denver game pushes the Chiefs down, you?
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FO won't be updated until Tues/Wed.. I'd bet the Denver game pushes the Chiefs down, you?
If it does, it won't be by much.

Smith had 2.9 seconds or more to throw on 4/6 sacks. That's plenty of time in the NFL.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...le4223679.html
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If it does, it won't be by much.

Smith had 2.9 seconds or more to throw on 4/6 sacks. That's plenty of time in the NFL.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...le4223679.html
That can be a deceptive stat as well.

Let's say for instance that the ball is snapped and just as Smith hits his back foot on a 3 step drop.. he has a DL shoot through McSuck and get in his face... Smith wiggles to the right and the DL fails to wrap arms around him to get him down... so Smith continues to the right looking for lane to run, but the RT can't stay in front of his man, and the defender brings Smith down for the sack.

A likely sack that should have taken 1.7 seconds.. took 2.9 seconds... but it was 2.9 due to Smith's initial evasion.

See? impossible to really nail down these things by looking at a stat.
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Nope... only the bolded belong in there.

Jags are 7th best in pass pro...
Skins are 11th best..
Jets are 15th best..

So KC is right there in the bottom 5.

Which teams have a worse group of WRs now?


and Hoyer??? the guy that got benched last weekend? the guy with the #35 ranking from PFF and a 27th rank in ESPN rating? That guy?

(Smith being ranked 13th and 15th, respectively)

wow...
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Nope... only the bolded belong in there.

Jags are 7th best in pass pro...
Skins are 11th best..
Jets are 15th best..

So KC is right there in the bottom 5.

Which teams have a worse group of WRs now?


and Hoyer??? the guy that got benched last weekend? the guy with the #35 ranking from PFF and a 27th rank in ESPN rating? That guy?

(Smith being ranked 13th and 15th, respectively)

wow...
So you're going to cherry pick one stat and that's what you're going to go off of? If I remember correctly....you didn't say that the Chiefs offensive line was a bottom 5 in just pass blocking. You said a bottom 5 unit. All of those teams listed....have given up more sacks than the Chiefs.
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So you're going to cherry pick one stat and that's what you're going to go off of? If I remember correctly....you didn't say that the Chiefs offensive line was a bottom 5 in just pass blocking. You said a bottom 5 unit. All of those teams listed....have given up more sacks than the Chiefs.
Guess it wasn't specified, but I'd been talking about the pass pro side of an OL. Total sacks can be deceptive, when regarding just how bad an OL is. Just as having a great run block rank could be far more due to having a great RB than a great OL.

Unfortunately, it's impossible to nail down a specific ranking for pass pro as well... since many variables outside of the OL get added into this. Alex will play safe and take more sacks than others... He also uses mobility to avoid some sacks that other QBs would eat.

... but really, if you watch a lot of non-KC football games also? You could easily tell that KC has one of the bottom OLs in the league.
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