how shady or legit is the NFL ?

[Crying Ramtard]

http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

http://thefixisin.net/nfl.html

I'm not betting my farm on how true this is but it makes a lot of sense to me. The NFL is an entertainment business and can bend a games outcome when they so choose.

So during a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the San Diego Chargers the Steelers were favored by 3. Nearly 70 percent of the betting public was on Pittsburgh, with a reported $100 million in potential earnings. The score with less than a minute to go, 11-10 Pittsburgh and SD with the ball. After an errant lateral gets knocked away by Troy Polamalu, he scoops it and scores. The score is now 17-10, there is no time left, all teams head to the locker room, fans go to cash their tickets.

After several minutes of debate, the refs overturn the call, restoring a meaningless TD off the board making the final score 11-10, the Steelers win, the public loses. What I found to be most odd about it is the league's explanation of a "forward pass". The pass was ruled forward although it is obvious it was a backwards lateral. When I got home, I starting thinking that things were just to good to be true.

Sportscenter reported the money lost in Vegas and almost joked about it. They were literally laughing. So after this bad beat, I held around some serious thoughts about the legitimacy of pro football.

An opportunity came up in my graduate school where I was to write my project on any topic I was to choose. So I chose researching the "Showbiz manipulations of the NFL". I picked up several books including Dan Moldea's "Interference: How Organized Crimes Influence Professional Football", Brian Touhy's "The Fix Is In" , Roger L. Martins "Fixing the Game". I checked out several TV Marketing books from the college library and also several TV Business books.

I utilized my rights under the Freedom of Information Act passed by President Lyndon Johnson in 1966 to access over 40 years of FBI files on the NFL although some information was redacted. Here's what I found:

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Contrary to popular belief and to what he NFL wants you to think, there have been fixed games in league history. On page 308 of Dan Moldea's book "Interference" he lists over 70 NFL games that have been fixed and includes the names of the 2 referees involved in fixing those games. He also lists interviews with NFL HOF players most notably KC Chiefs QB Len Dawson. He, in detail with documented facts supported by FBI documents, has interviews with NFL players and known gambling associates to uncover massive game fixing in the league. He also notes, with evidence, throughout the book that no fewer than 26 NFL team owners have or have had continuous and developing relationships with the gambling world, most notably the Rooney, Bidwill, and Mara families all getting their starts as Bookmakers for established mid-west crime families and buying their NFL franchises with moneys earned from gambling. So that in and of itself is a hypocrisy number 1 on the NFL's "lilly white" reputation.

NFL Referees are part-time employees of the NFL. They are not employees of any team nor do they get paid anywhere close to the sums of NBA refs. NFL refs make between $25K to $70K per season. They work for the league and do what the league tells them to do. They are not there for "the integrity of the game". Referees, unlike other sports, are bound by NFL mandated gag orders which prevent them from talking to the media.

2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.

The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.

Robert Kraft and John Mara are two of the most business savvy and highly respected NFL owners. Kraft is in charge of the NFL TV broadcast committee and also leads all television negotiations for the NFL. Kraft also is on the board of directors for Viacom, the parent company of CBS, one of NFL's broadcasters. This past Spring, Robert Kraft negotiated a record TV deal for the NFL which will result in $24 Billion in revenue with CBS, FOX, ESPN and NBC. Kraft and Mara also brought both parties to the table and led all negotiations in ending the lockout.

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank was interviewed saying "It is predetermined that these two teams would be here, I wish my team was selected to be in the Super Bowl one day, but these two gentlemen deserve it". And the Giants posted themselves as victors before the game, the NFL claimed it was "an overzealous employee".

The 49ers need a new stadium, with the same players as Mike Singletary, and a Alex Smith in a contract year, the 49ers post a 13-3 record and make it to the NFC Championship. But what they don't tell you is how the stadium deal is structured. 80% of the funding comes from Bank of America and US Bank. 20% financed by the State of California using tax dollars.

The 49ers have pledged to pay back the State in 5 seasons with help from revenue sharing from NFL owners. What better way to pay someone back quickly than with packed stadiums and extra playoff game revenue.

On MNF they found themselves in a blackout. Steelers safety Ryan Clark said "it was to show the league they need a new stadium and the 49ers caused the blackout". Why would he say this if shadiness wasn't common practice? You can view his opinions here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...off-his-rocker.

Ravens players complained that the 2007 Patriots were " being handed games by refs" in their quest for perfection. And I have over 40 years of information on NFL business dealings and how these owners "miraculously" found themselves holding the Lombardi Trophy.

Let's look at the 2011 season and see how television ratings connected with some of the league's most important games, and quickly view how the referees controlled games.

Week 1: NFL Announces ESPN will pay $1billion per game of MNF through the 2021 season. In a tribute to 9/11 20 million + viewers tuned in as the Jets mounted a magic 14 point comeback over the Cowboys. Number of penalties called the Jets = 0

Week 2: The NFL's rule changes make for a more exciting game as scoring is way up. Much like the AFL days of the 60's, 72% of the games went over the total and TV ratings are now through the roof. The league emphasises "the year of the QB".

Week 3: Packers vs Bears: The Bears return a punt return for a TD which would've ultimately allowed them to cover the spread. Instead a fantom holding call overturned the TD. It was the 10th penalty of the game for the Bears vs. 1 penalty for the Packers. You can see the play here: http://youtu.be/_w-pXfjbYHk

Week 6: The Beginning of the Tim Tebow Era. Tim Tebow has a HUGE, and I mean HUGE Christian following. The guy can't hit a barn, but a decent athlete. Yet as the third string QB he is thrust into the starting role and the team magically "changes the entire offense" in a matter of weeks to suit him? Tebow was the number 1 jersey seller for the league without even stepping foot on the field. It was time to make him a star and they did ripping off several "magical" victories with poultry statistics. These teams were handing them games. If you didn't notice this, all I need to say it two words : Marion Barber. All the while the NFL is forcing religion down our throats with God's quarterback.

Week 7: The Jags are close to a sale, the possible new owners just need one more hint of encouragement to prevent buyers remorse. In come the Ravens. After the Saints destruction of the Colts on SNF. Vegas was in trouble. ESPN was in trouble because no one was going to watch this snore fest. The Ravens didn't get a first down until late in the fourth quarter and the Jags win with 4 FG's. Sale complete, Vegas wins. You lose.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You do realise that even if it was as easy as 1 in 32 you would still be incorrect don't you?

Listen, this is math and science and probability. You take numbers, but, . . then you, . . hurr.


FORGET IT!!

It's abuff yer head and below yer feet!!

For me to explain, I might as well throw my purse before a swines does.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you watched the games and yet you aren't intelligent enough to realize that Frank Reich who only threw 47 passes all year shouldn't be able to lead a team in the greatest comeback ever....

I can guarantee you I am both more intelligent and better educated than you are. Did you even graduate high school? You don't seem to have a grasp of even junior high level math or English.

I'm no genius, but even average intelligence would have you beat.

[Shekelsteinberg]

It's refball/shekelball. Not as premeditated as the WWF but there is definitely some manipulation and steering toward certain outcomes.

[007]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you refuse to look at obvious patterns and coincidences. You childishly mock what confuses you. Compared to you I am a guru

Man, you don't even know how to take a joke.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

another pseudo logic excuse that explains and defines nothing.

you keep making that excuse 4 years in a row for a team accomplishing the impossible 4 times in a row ?

I understand probability quite well. You don't understand that absolutely everything has to go right for the Bills to keep getting that far and losing. For everything to go that perfectly,it has to be manipulated.

the Colts accomplished the perfect comeback against the Chiefs last year. Everything they needed to go right for them in the second half went right for them. When are you going to stop ignoring the obvious ?

When there's a human element involved math goes out the window. After all they're playing with a ball that has points on both ends and bounces funny.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I can guarantee you I am both more intelligent and better educated than you are. Did you even graduate high school? You don't seem to have a grasp of even junior high level math or English.

I'm no genius, but even average intelligence would have you beat.

I'm not the one struggling with common sense examples and making excuses for outlandish outcomes. You are.

cognitive dissonance as explained before is your issue.

I have explained to you how to watch a game and what to look for. I don't make excuses for blatant wrong or invented referee calls. Not only am I more intelligent but I have more common sense as well

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Kman34

When there's a human element involved math goes out the window. After all they're playing with a ball that has points on both ends and bounces funny.

that's right, the NFL invented its own reality and everyone buys any outcome.

human error ? when it happens that many times with all that high tech equipment its not an accident anymore. That is called lying,not an accident or a mistake.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

I have explained to you how to watch a game and what to look for.

I don't need someone to tell me to only look for things that fit my preconceived ideas, but thanks anyway.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I don't need someone to tell me to only look for things that fit my preconceived ideas, but thanks anyway.

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preconceived ideas ? no, this is research that came from understanding the impossible keeps happening.

'anything is possible 'is an intellectually false statement. everything has a cause and effect and the Jets-Steelers game is a prime example of bullcrap outcomes.

[sharknado]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

how convenient that they cant be published huh ?




the problem here is you have no proof either. But I have a premise and a system being carried out while you just hope you are right.




actually I have given multiple examples that intelligent people can discern logically. My top 3 should make anyone with common sense stop and think but they can throw last years Colts playoff game right in your face and you still have no clue.

it is a logical mathematical fact that you cant go to and lose 4 super bowls in a row without manipulation but the world has lost grasp with common sense and cant even figure out that simple equation anymore.
I have in fact analyzed more than you. I know I am right or I wouldn't be so dogmatic.

wait , youll see how absurd the playoff picture gets as the season goes along

Hey there sunshine, do you know how I know you're a troll?

Let's briefly dismiss this argument anyway. Chances of a coin toss happening to land heads 4 straight times? 6.25%. Chances of any other individual outcome of 4 coin tosses? 6.25%. Notice I said any not every (the chances of every other outcome are of course 100% - 6.25%). If we assume that the Bills and the other team had an equal chance to win each game, the chance that they'd lose all 4 is 6 in 100, or just over 1 in 20. Really not that unlikely. The previous games though, they actually have predictive value. Not in a causal sense, they don't make stuff happen, but if we see that through the course of the season that the Bills aren't as likely to beat a good team as say the Cowboys we can use that to predict the outcome of a game featuring those teams at an above chance level. The were favored Cowboys by 10 and 7. These weren't four coin tosses, history suggested the Bills had a much higher chance than 6.25% to lose four straight...

[stumppy]

I was needing a good laugh. Can't wait for the village idiots reply.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by sharknado

Hey there sunshine, do you know how I know you're a troll?

Let's briefly dismiss this argument anyway. Chances of a coin toss happening to land heads 4 straight times? 6.25%. Chances of any other individual outcome of 4 coin tosses? 6.25%. Notice I said any not every (the chances of every other outcome are of course 100% - 6.25%). If we assume that the Bills and the other team had an equal chance to win each game, the chance that they'd lose all 4 is 6 in 100, or just over 1 in 20. Really not that unlikely. The previous games though, they actually have predictive value. Not in a causal sense, they don't make stuff happen, but if we see that through the course of the season that the Bills aren't as likely to beat a good team as say the Cowboys we can use that to predict the outcome of a game featuring those teams at an above chance level. The were favored Cowboys by 10 and 7. These weren't four coin tosses, history suggested the Bills had a much higher chance than 6.25% to lose four straight...

your examples are asinine. You aren't accounting for the 100s of variables involving all the players on every team having to do all the things it would take for the one team with more than 40 players to go 4 times in a row. Absolutely everything has to go one teams way...absolutely everything.
you aren't even bothering to think how childishly absurd it is for a back up QB who throws 47 passes all year to somehow have the greatest comeback ever.

history suggested ? that means nothing and makes no sense. each year there weren't the same players on every team and the same variables didn't keep happening but always worked against them.
You simply refuse to think logically. There is no way in heck this can happen unless entirely premeditated. Its laughable to suggest an entire conference but for one team was bad ..its simply a sorry excuse of a reason.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

your examples are asinine. You aren't accounting for the 100s of variables involving all the players on every team having to do all the things it would take for the one team with more than 40 players to go 4 times in a row. Absolutely everything has to go one teams way...absolutely everything.
you aren't even bothering to think how childishly absurd it is for a back up QB who throws 47 passes all year to somehow have the greatest comeback ever.

history suggested ? that means nothing and makes no sense. each year there weren't the same players on every team and the same variables didn't keep happening but always worked against them.
You simply refuse to think logically. There is no way in heck this can happen unless entirely premeditated. Its laughable to suggest an entire conference but for one team was bad ..its simply a sorry excuse of a reason.

Does it hurt to be so stupid?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This thread is rigged.

[chiefzilla1501]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...fl-inspections

Wow, what a crazy story:

In an unprecedented step, agents from the federal Drug Enforcement Administration conducted surprise inspections Sunday, targeting the medical and training staffs of visiting NFL teams, in an effort to determine whether they violated federal drug laws governing the handling and distribution of prescription painkillers, "Outside the Lines" has learned.